@androbulk androhard etc....wtf

Amwdurant35 said:
I got 2 bottles of andromass, 1 bottle of androhard, and the TRS recovery stack in the cart right now. Price comes to $511 after the discount... These products are worth that pricetag? I've never tried any type of prohormone product so I'm hesitant. Should I go with this or give a 8 week natty a try? I got sns daa and erase on my self and still haven't pulled it out. Any ideas?
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I'm sorry, but 511$ is obscene. I've never tried the andro line as such I really have nothing to say about it, but for that amount of money you might as well run a real cycle of aas if your willing or ready. For now I would say save your money and stick to the daa erase combo I'm using it now and it surely works.
 
Yea that's exactly what I was thinking n ive been hesitant to try any ph n figured this would be a good starter. WhEn i seen my total at that i couldnt talk myself into doing it. With that price I better look like the hulk after and keep all my gains.
 
Amwdurant35 said:
Yea that's exactly what I was thinking n ive been hesitant to try any ph n figured this would be a good starter. WhEn i seen my total at that i couldnt talk myself into doing it. With that price I better look like the hulk after and keep all my gains.
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I understand what you mean, these are just a lot safer and MOST likely are less damaging in the long run than other ph and steroids. To me it's easily worth the price for my health. money comes and goes, in other words yolo
 
Austinmck17 said:
I understand what you mean, these are just a lot safer and MOST likely are less damaging in the long run than other ph and steroids. To me it's easily worth the price for my health. money comes and goes, in other words yolo
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I agree. While researching I have seen I could do a Beastadrol or Helladrol cycle for less than of a PP cycle, but I don't feel comfortable with the sides or risks. I also would be extremely pissed if I lost most of my gains and PP gains seem more likely to stick around after post cycle, all other things being equal.
 
Amwdurant35 said:
I got 2 bottles of andromass, 1 bottle of androhard, and the TRS recovery stack in the cart right now. Price comes to $511 after the discount... These products are worth that pricetag? I've never tried any type of prohormone product so I'm hesitant. Should I go with this or give a 8 week natty a try? I got sns daa and erase on my self and still haven't pulled it out. Any ideas?
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As a first cycle, this is WAYYY too much. Start off with one product that best fits your needs. Better still, find the lowest effective dose rather then blitzing your body straight away. Far cheaper on the wallet and much more knowledge afterwards to better plan each cycle. Also you'll know better how your body reacts to each compounds and how shutdown you feel. After doing this myself, I've found I can dose even below the recommended dose and get great results.

My personal experience has been more so with MMV3, 5AOHP and AMS goodies, which might be considered by some (don't think righty so) as being lesser then the androseries, but have shown me some good results and at a much lower price and are similarly much safer then methlys. Have a look at some AMS or Forerunner Labs for a better price, at least as an intro into the market, find which compounds give the best results for you and amp up the doses if you want with your product of choice.
 
two bottles forerunner labs alpha mass and alphabulk and you are still paying less than one andromass. research torem plus deisel test or hcgen and youll get away under three hundred. thats what id do.
 
zendog said:
two bottles forerunner labs alpha mass and alphabulk and you are still paying less than one andromass. research torem plus deisel test or hcgen and youll get away under three hundred. thats what id do.
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If you compare the active ingredients, it equals out to be almost exactly the same $$ per mg of 4-Dhea or 1-Dhea or whichever you choose to compare. i did the calculations months ago and it was almost identical. check the labels and mg amounts per cap and do the math.
 
Austinmck17 said:
I understand what you mean, these are just a lot safer and MOST likely are less damaging in the long run than other ph and steroids. To me it's easily worth the price for my health. money comes and goes, in other words yolo
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This is exactly the benefit in these products. Safe and effective, with gains that stick around. Expensive, yes, but the benefits presents itself in how it treats your body.

As for the comments on AMS and forerunner, although great products, as noted previously it should be considered in terms of amount of actives per dollar.
 
HereToStudy said:
This is exactly the benefit in these products. Safe and effective, with gains that stick around. Expensive, yes, but the benefits presents itself in how it treats your body.

As for the comments on AMS and forerunner, although great products, as noted previously it should be considered in terms of amount of actives per dollar.
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It should be considered in terms of what works.
 
HereToStudy said:
This is exactly the benefit in these products. Safe and effective, with gains that stick around. Expensive, yes, but the benefits presents itself in how it treats your body.

As for the comments on AMS and forerunner, although great products, as noted previously it should be considered in terms of amount of actives per dollar.
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When looking at AMS its apples and oranges, given the different delivery method. Forerunner labs has there own take on the hormone shield so not exact either for as much as I'd like it to be that simple. Sadly also AndroMass has no 1-DHEA anymore, with many saying V2 was better. With what ZenDog said, you get the V2 profile with the ability to tweak your ratio of 1-DHEA:4-DHEA to avoid sides and get the full benefit of 1-DHEA.

If you want to go andromass anyways, no reason not to stack Alpha Mass ( 1-DHEA) or DecaVol (Nor-19) with instead of adding AndroHard given you'll be pretty protected from lethargy with the 4-DHEA/DHT mix of AlphaMass and probably gain more from that rather then what could be diminishing returns from more AndroHard IMO.

No reason not to mix and match to make the best stack for you needs at the best price :)
 
SynergyIre said:
When looking at AMS its apples and oranges, given the different delivery method. Forerunner labs has there own take on the hormone shield so not exact either for as much as I'd like it to be that simple. Sadly also AndroMass has no 1-DHEA anymore, with many saying V2 was better. With what ZenDog said, you get the V2 profile with the ability to tweak your ratio of 1-DHEA:4-DHEA to avoid sides and get the full benefit of 1-DHEA.

If you want to go andromass anyways, no reason not to stack Alpha Mass ( 1-DHEA) or DecaVol (Nor-19) with instead of adding AndroHard given you'll be pretty protected from lethargy with the 4-DHEA/DHT mix of AlphaMass and probably gain more from that rather then what could be diminishing returns from more AndroHard IMO.

No reason not to mix and match to make the best stack for you needs at the best price :)
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Most are saying V3 is better actually...I agree with the mixing and matching
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
If you compare the active ingredients, it equals out to be almost exactly the same $$ per mg of 4-Dhea or 1-Dhea or whichever you choose to compare. i did the calculations months ago and it was almost identical. check the labels and mg amounts per cap and do the math.
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We come out lower with rep discounts...and even without them
 
I am pretty sure AMS gets their hormones from the same source we do --- and once you calculate the mgs per dose its all relatively similar.

I will agree and say the 1DHEA has been a favorite for several people -- even though the lethargy kicks most persons ass....

So you could mix and match both companies products and enjoy properties of each product line. I think throwing in Alpha-MASS alongside AndroMass v3 is awesome idea.....

Hell -- Invalid Link Removed + Alpha Mass would be awesome.

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
I am pretty sure AMS gets their hormones from the same source we do --- and once you calculate the mgs per dose its all relatively similar.

I will agree and say the 1DHEA has been a favorite for several people -- even though the lethargy kicks most persons ass....

So you could mix and match both companies products and enjoy properties of each product line. I think throwing in Alpha-MASS alongside AndroMass v3 is awesome idea.....

Hell -- Invalid Link Removed + Alpha Mass would be awesome.

-Matt
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I'm getting ready to stack alpha mass with AE and AndroHard, should help mitigate lethargy as give me good gains
 
Austinmck17 said:
I'm getting ready to stack alpha mass with AE and AndroHard, should help mitigate lethargy as give me good gains
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I would imagine the AH + AE would mitigate the potential lethargy from 1DHEA --- please keep us posted at that will be nothing but very DRY clean mass gains -- might not be 15 lbs but if its 5-6 lbs it will be water-free weight.

-Matt
 
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