Anavar?

Hey, oxandrolone rocks, safe as asprin, and that seems strange because it is an oral usually hard on the liver, and I think it is a 17 alpha -a compound. Also Var-10 oxantrione from the var family is a really safe mix to.
 
karlHungus said:
MYTHS

Myth #1 - Anavar will not suppress the HPTA.
False. Anavar, used in adequate dosages, will shut you down. To what degree you experience side effects of suppression (loss of libido, lethargy) is entirely dependent upon the individual and the dosages used.

Myth #2 - Var is a weak anabolic, and is not effective unless stacked with a more androgenic compound.
This could not be further from the truth. At dosages of 40mg a day and higher, anavar is incredibly effective at adding water free LBM. At around day 6-7, increased vascularity should become apparent (assuming your oxandrolone is legitimate in its dosing), and strength gains should start appearing around day 14.
If used during a clean bulk, gains of 10-20 pounds are possible. If cutting, you will maintain weight, or even put on 5-10 pounds (depending on the rate of fat loss/severity of diet). You will keep all of your gains with proper PCT.

Myth #3 - Anavar will not require any type of PCT.
This is one ive never understood. It's a pretty commonly known fact now that var is a suppressive compound. So why is it that some individuals still refuse to make a small investment in some clomid/nolva....this is your testicular function we're talking about. That said, PCT required for var is not as "heavy" as PCT for, say, a test/eq cycle. 15-20 days @ 50mg clomid should be sufficient.


LIBIDO

The only real issue of concern that i have found when running anavar alone is slight libido suppression. Anavar is suppressive enough to where you WILL feel a difference in your sex drive (and not for the better ) when using 40+mg a day. There are three options to counteract this.

#1 - Tribulus + Avena Sativa - Trib at 4-7g a day and Avena Sativa at 3-4g a day tend to help prevent any loss in performance or ability to get it up. However, using effective dosages is going to end up being as or more expensive than options 2 or 3...but its your call.

#2 - Proviron - If hairloss is an issue in your choice to use anavar, then you may want to avoid this one. But 25mg ED proviron, starting after week 2, will keep you rock hard. And it will help to harden up your muscles too .

#3 - Maintenance Test Dosage - Finally, you could choose to use testosterone to keep your willy in shape. At a dosage of around 200mg, split bi weekly, everything should keep running smoothly. Also, this will contribute to your gains much moreso than than options 1 or 2. I would keep nolva onhand on the off chance that you are severely gyno prone. Bloating should not be an issue at this dosage.

BENEFITS

Anavar is a badass drug. This is why.

#1 - Vascularity
Oxandrolone will make you veiny as all hell. And quickly. Look out for brand new bulging forearms veins by around day 6. If you are following a cutting regimen, expect new spider webs in your chest, shoulders and quads by around day 21.

#2 - Pumps
When on var, the pumps are constant. Bored sitting in class/at work? Do some unweighted calf raises. After about three minutes, your calves will be ready to pop. Youll be doing something like drinking a cup of water, and after a minute of holding it, your bi will be completely full and pumped. You may have to cut some sets short in the gym due to the painful pumpage.

#3 - Strength
Even when cutting, you can expect new strength gains every workout after about day 14-21.

#4 - Fat Loss
Anavar has been shown to contribute to accelerated fat loss in both subcutaneous and visceral fat, concentrated effects in the abdomen and thigh area. And if youve used the drug, you can attest to this...if you cant sport the 6-8 pack look on var, its not gonna happen.

LIVER PROTECTION

Anavar is a 17 Alpha Alkylated steroid, and is toxic. It has been shown to be less toxic than other orals, and is even used as liver treatment for recovering alcoholics. Still, i would limit my time using it to 8 weeks, 10 at the most.

It would be beneficial to you liver to use several different OTC supplements during, and perhaps after your cycle. A few preventive measures never hurt anyone .

1 - Milk Thistle
The classic liver protectant herb.supposedly works by blocking the entrance of harmful substances to liver cells, and hastening their expulsion. Make sure there is a high standardization of Silymarin

2 - R ALA
A powerful antioxidant

3 - NAC
Supports liver function and production of l-glutathione

4 - Vitamin C and E
Antioxidants

5 - LOADS of water
Helps to flush out your entire system

LIPID PROTECTION

Anavar isnt going to kill your cholesterol levels like some drugs (winny being one of the worst), but it may put your LDL/HDL profiles outside of the normal range. There are a few things that help, but as long as your not using 60+mg daily or running it for more than 10 weeks, i would just use flax...

1 - Flax Oil
Consuming lots of ***** fatty acids promotes overall health, as well as helping to keep your lipid profile from becoming too bad.

2 - Policosanol
Used at 20mg daily to keep your HDL (good cholesterol) levels from crashing, and your LDL from becoming too high.

3 - Niacin
Preferably the flush free variety. If you wish, niacin can be used at 1-2g ED for a short period post-cycle to normalize HDL levels. Do not use for more than 7-14 days, as liver toxicity can be an issue when using those dosages of niacin for long periods of time.



I hope that people read this, and that it helps those doing their research to make the correct decision.
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Thank you for this... I couldnt decide whether winni or var would be better.
 
djglow05 said:
I created this thread to obtain knowledge from my fellow AM community. Anavar, what do yall know about it? I know nothing at all, hence the creation of this thread. My friend started taking it so I wanted to learn about it. How should you take? Is is good, bad? How hard is it on your body? What and how are the results?
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Anavar is my favorite oral compound. I use it in doses of 80mgs ED and it works great for lean muscle mass and strength gains and I get no sides from it. I run it for atleast 10 weeks. Its a slow compound to work and longer cycles are needed of course with Test as a base. For a first timer, 50mgs ED should be sufficient. Honestly, my best strength gains have come from Anavar. I have got better strength gains from Var than I have with Dbol. Overall, its a very mild compound that will produce small gains in lean mass which are easy to keep after cycle however. So, two thumbs up for this compound!!!:thumbsup:
 
mj34 said:
Anavar is my favorite oral compound. I use it in doses of 80mgs ED and it works great for lean muscle mass and strength gains and I get no sides from it. I run it for atleast 10 weeks. Its a slow compound to work and longer cycles are needed of course with Test as a base. For a first timer, 50mgs ED should be sufficient. Honestly, my best strength gains have come from Anavar. I have got better strength gains from Var than I have with Dbol. Overall, its a very mild compound that will produce small gains in lean mass which are easy to keep after cycle however. So, two thumbs up for this compound!!!:thumbsup:
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#2 - Pumps
When on var, the pumps are constant. Bored sitting in class/at work? Do some unweighted calf raises. After about three minutes, your calves will be ready to pop. Youll be doing something like drinking a cup of water, and after a minute of holding it, your bi will be completely full and pumped. You may have to cut some sets short in the gym due to the painful pumpage.

This is very true. If I'm walking from my house to campus with a backpack I get ungodly cramps pumps whatever you want to call it in my traps and shoulder areas and some in my back. With Dbol the pumps are worse because they are in the lower back and they hurt like a bitch. I have been spending a lot of time lately laying down on the bench after a few sets to calm down the back spasms and cramps.
 
pistonpump said:
how long was the cycle and what doses? that doesnt look that bad actually. Niacin will help with cholesterol but it also stresses the liver so dont use too high doses for too long. EFA like fish or flax oils will help lipids too. i just read you are already taking that. Should be back to normal soon then.
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I heard Taurine and Potassium work pretty well for the cramps. Can anyone vouch for this? Thanks!
 
mj34 said:
I heard Taurine and Potassium work pretty well for the cramps. Can anyone vouch for this? Thanks!
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Yea I would say it works pretty well. I've never done Var, but I just finished a phera/superdrol bridge, took about 5-6 g of taurine, added like 3 bannanas a day to my diet, and lots of water seemed to do the trick. I would still get minor lower back pumps every once in awhile, mainly after deads, but not half as bad as my previous cycles without the stuff.
 
boggs67ss said:
Yea I would say it works pretty well. I've never done Var, but I just finished a phera/superdrol bridge, took about 5-6 g of taurine, added like 3 bannanas a day to my diet, and lots of water seemed to do the trick. I would still get minor lower back pumps every once in awhile, mainly after deads, but not half as bad as my previous cycles without the stuff.
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Thanks
 
mj34 said:
I heard Taurine and Potassium work pretty well for the cramps. Can anyone vouch for this? Thanks!
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Yes. I dont keep taurine on hand anymore but ive used it before and it has worked. I just eat bananas if im getting those back pumps. I think im pretty lucky in the back pump department tho.
 
its one of my favs you cant compare it to winny i also dont think a test base pct is needed as i found it did not suppress the testies. instead of running a high dose i would just run it longer it has no effect on your liver
 
damn anavar with a pulse of winni.. seems like it would reak havoc on your libido.. also seems like it would dry out ur joints hardcore... with that being said if it doesnt and seems like it could work... what do fellow memebers think of running a 6 month run of HGH.. with 2 cycles of winni and var stack thrown in there..maybe something like
----6 months out from video/photo shoot----

HGH-5IUs daily for 6 months

anavar/winstrol- 50mg of each daily for 7 weeks

nolva- 20mg daily for 3 weeks

6 weeks off

anavar/winstrol-60mg daily 7 weeks

nolva-20mg daily-3 weeks

would this cycle with a great diet be something that could possibly prepare one for a movie/photo shoot to acheive body composition similar to those actors in the movie 300...
not that i have the money for this,, but one of my clients who acts was wondering about some type of cycle similar to this..
 
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