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AMS 4-AD or New Dermacrine?

Are you looking for a test base? Both of those will work great, I would go with AndroEnhance or AndroMass.
 
To answer your question, I've never used the ams product, but when using methyls, I'm a big fan of transdermals to minimize traffic on the liver. I've used dermacrine several times. It's a good product. Now I just use test for a test base. It's the king.
 
stankyleg said:
To answer your question, I've never used the ams product, but when using methyls, I'm a big fan of transdermals to minimize traffic on the liver. I've used dermacrine several times. It's a good product. Now I just use test for a test base. It's the king.
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It should be even better with the new carrier. It dries quick and works very effectively.
 
stankyleg said:
To answer your question, I've never used the ams product, but when using methyls, I'm a big fan of transdermals to minimize traffic on the liver. I've used dermacrine several times. It's a good product. Now I just use test for a test base. It's the king.
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These aren't methyls. Both products bypass first pass metabolism by the liver.
 
Royd The Noyd said:
These aren't methyls. Both products bypass first pass metabolism by the liver.
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He said he had helladrol and beastadrol to run with it. I, personally start to feel lethargy from multiple orals, esp if one is methylated.
 
Royd The Noyd said:
It's pointless to use a methyl as a transdermal. The ams product also bypasses first pass metabolism. That's all I'm saying.
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I'm obviously having a problem communicating my point. That's all I'm saying.
 
OP is looking at running a methyl compound and he is looking for a test base it seems. The new Dermacrine would def be a worthwhile choice!!
 
bklaves said:
Any recommendations? I have Helladrol and Beastdrol on had to run with it. Thanks in advance.
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stankyleg said:
To answer your question, I've never used the ams product, but when using methyls, I'm a big fan of transdermals to minimize traffic on the liver. I've used dermacrine several times. It's a good product. Now I just use test for a test base. It's the king.
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stankyleg said:
I'm obviously having a problem communicating my point. That's all I'm saying.
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I don't think you understand my point which is the ams products also avoid first pass metabolism, so saying dermacrine is better because it's transdermal is moot.

Second 4-DHEA is better than DHEA in any form.

Third you do not run the risk of contact transfer with the ams products.
 
Royd The Noyd said:
I don't think you understand my point which is the ams products also avoid first pass metabolism, so saying dermacrine is better because it's transdermal is moot.

Second 4-DHEA is better than DHEA in any form.

Third you do not run the risk of contact transfer with the ams products.
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I see.
 
FWIW, 6 wks into a 1-dhea, 5-epiandro, & 4-dhea stack & the 4-AD from AMS has been great. Ran FRL's alphamass for the first bottle of 1-dhea & using Finaflex's 1-andro for the second; both give me an almost unbearable level of lethargy. But dosing 4-AD under the tongue til it dissolves 3x per day has made a night & day difference in energy levels. 4-AD wasn't there from the start, but soon as I brought it into the cycle I stopped hating work & life lol. Plus mad random b*ners, if that's worth anything to ya.

Heard good things about Dermacrine too, haven't tried it yet.
 
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