DR.D said:
Yeah, right! Me too. I already have chrom and physicals on Sldg's, send me a bottle and I'll assay it. At least I could say what it isn't and might be.
Do you really need a whole bottle to assay it?
If it is DMT as speculated this could be very risky for all involved. Various agencies are claiming it as a designer steroid ala THG. Here's one article though I'm sure you've alll heard about it by now.
Scientists find new designer steroid
Duncan Mackay
Wednesday February 2, 2005
The Guardian
Scientists at the World Anti-Doping Agency have discovered a new designer anabolic steroid designed specifically to evade drugs tests, fulfilling the prophecy made last year by Victor Conte.
The founder and owner of the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative, who allegedly distributed the first designer anabolic steroid tetrahydrogestrinone or THG, had claimed a new drug was already in production. "You think it's over just because they've indicted me?" he had said. "Please. There's a new version out there right now."
His claim has been confirmed by the identification of another hitherto undetectable substance called desoxymethyltestosterone (DMT). The new steroid would have a similar impact to testosterone if used, increasing strength, muscle bulk and stamina.
"Following the THG story, this is the second designer steroid we have found," Wada's scientific director Olivier Rabin said from Montreal. "We believe this was created purely for doping in sport."
Just as in the discovery of THG, officials were alerted to the existence of this new drug by a whistleblower; this time it was an anonymous emailer who alerted Wada to the seizure. Wada and professor Christiane Ayotte, the head of the Wada-accredited laboratory in Montreal, worked with Canadian customs scientists who had seized it at the border with the United States last July to determine that it was a new form of performance-enhancing steroid.
Ayotte said retests of stored urine samples taken from athletes in recent months showed no trace of the drug and she believes it was caught before it went into general circulation. "This puts us ahead of the dopers," claimed Rabin.
The new drug is the most complex substance yet discovered by testers and is several generations ahead of THG. Even officials expressed an element of admiration at the cleverness of its creation. "THG was a modification of gestrinone [a female fertility drug] by a simple one-step reaction," Ayotte said. "But in this case we know, because we exactly reproduced the way they made this product, that it is at a level of sophistication that we have not seen before.
"We now have chemists with a very serious organic chemistry background helping these people distribute these things to athletes."
Because this synthetic steroid lingers in the liver without breaking down, however, it is potentially highly damaging. "They used chemicals that are very dangerous," said Ayotte. "They are highly flammable when exposed to the air and toxic. There was no purification."
The discovery of this new drug indicates that THG was almost certainly the result of sustained development and not just the invention of an amateur scientist who got lucky. "This proves that THG was not a one-off," said Rabin. "This new substance has been discovered so quickly after THG because we learned some lessons from the THG story. This shows them how serious we are."
The cloak-and-dagger contest between the testers and rogue scientists is increasingly fascinating.
Many are returning to steroids manufactured nearly 50 years ago to try to fool the testers. By altering the pharmacological make-up of some drugs it is possible to avoid them showing up in tests or sometimes the substance is so old that they have simply been forgotten.
Such a case happened in 2003 when Dr Don Catlin, the head of the Los Angeles Wada-accredited laboratory, suspected that Tammy Thomas, an American cyclist who had won a silver medal in the 2001 world championships, was using illegal drugs but was perplexed by her test results.
After some research Catlin discovered she was using norethandrolone, a drug developed in the 1960s to help undersized men but never released after inconclusive clinical trials. Thomas was banned from cycling for life.
Catlin and Ayotte are at the forefront of the fight against doping in sport. It was Catlin who identified and developed a test for THG and now Ayotte has struck another blow.
The source for the manufacturer of these illegal drugs is suspected to be laboratories in China or India. The FBI uncovered evidence during its investigation into Conte that THG started life at a plant in Hangzhou, China, where it is easy to obtain all the raw materials needed to make designer steroids. It is probably a similar story with DMT.
"The universe of these people is large," said Catlin. "The world is big. Who knows what goes on in the nooks and crannies?"
... this thread sorta strikes me as insane, might aswell mention hallucinogenic drugs, mystery pheremones that promote muscle growth through mysterious means marketed to men to help attract ladies? well I hope they work like SD 
