i dont trust the company, their "science" is not backed up or real. There claim on chaind out is that their bcaa wont turn into glucose like everyone elses will. But only one of the three bcaas is even glucogenic to begin with and adding a malate to valine, the glucogenic one, wont change anything. They end up being just more water soluable. I mean and their claims on whey being garbage is dumb to. Not to mention their hyperdrive 3.0 was caught with a perscription weight loss durg in high amounts, restore had androstien, and jungle warfare had a dht like steriod.