I started the first three days just "testing" it. I took 1 pill in to doses (1/2 at 8am, 1/2 at 3-4pm). the next 4 days i did 2 pills per day. 8am and 3-4 pm.
Im up 6 lbs. Some water (not as much as Dbol/M14ADD or test etc) but Ive been trying to manage the water with anti-e's and ECA. Carb storage is def noticable, the first day I got a little hypoglycemic, so I uped my carbs and it fine. Strength is up, but more so on pulling and leg exercises, less so on press excercises. Lactic acid is definitly delayed, I can effortlessly do higher reps that would have burned me out before.
I can Definitly DEFINITLY see it in the mirror though. I have trained/juiced for about 11 years, and I De-trained for about 40 days due to some injuries, so i know that my muscles memmory has some to do with my quick transformation.
I mix in some p-mag before some workouts...doesnt seem to synergize well well with this. I am a big p-mag fan though, just maybe not with this... although its very early in my cycle, so Ill keep tweaking it.
Its really the mild lethargy that I dont like. It not major, I just want to nap a bit during the day. No Back pumps yet, but ive been taking taurine
I also sometime take Estra 4,9 diene at night (helps my prostate loosen up in the morning, and less shedding. but that leads me to believe there is androgen receptor competition, so I may be lessening the effects of the alpha-one by doing this. Not sure though