Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA)

MAxximal said:
maybe "push nutrients (carbs)" in to the muscles not turns in fat?????
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Well it iss also part of Glycobol which looks to be a pretty amazing product so I'm also very intrigued. This is what the AI write up has to say about it:

Sodium R-Lipoate (Na-r-ALA)
ALA is naturally produced in the body as a mitochondrial enzyme cofactor. It is important to aerobic metabolism. ALA has been suggested to increase cellular uptake of glucose to cell membranes by recruiting the glucose transporter GLUT4. ALA improves skeletal muscle glucose transport, resulting in desirable blood glucose disposal and increased muscle glycogen concentrations. (1) Studies also suggest that in muscle, ALA is a potent anti-oxidant which protects cells from oxidative stress-induced insulin resistance. (2) The ALA used in this formula is chemically stabilized and of the highest quality. It's one of the most active isomers and one of the highest potency salts commercially available. ALA is an invaluable addition that offers a multitude of benefits plus countless extras for any serious athlete.

Bottom Line: Best way to describe this effect is that it almost adds a filter to the muscle fibers; Taking in what it needs to prepare for growth.
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MAxximal said:
Na R-Alpha Lipoic Acid and this type is more bioaviable?:nervous:
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Correct, and you get the beneficial R entaniomer, instead of a mix of both, where the S has been shown to negate some of the benefits of the R.

Glycobol has a nice dose of Na-RALA.
 
Thanks I kinda thought thats what nutrient partioning was about. The metabolism of glucose passes through two routes one to glycogen (muscle) one to fat. Partitioning shifts the switch.

Data would be nice.

I used/use Anabolic Pump.

Glycobol does have a growing fan base - there are some sides though.
 
ww.nutraplanet.com/product/nutraplanet/na-rala-capsules-90-caps.html

If you look it says "Do not take on a low carb diet" ? Hmmm
 
It also helps push me into ketosis much faster on a low carb diet. To do this though, I usually have to take 2,000 - 3,000mg / day..
 
Violator4200 said:
ww.nutraplanet.com/product/nutraplanet/na-rala-capsules-90-caps.html

If you look it says "Do not take on a low carb diet" ? Hmmm
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Low carb = low blood sugar

It can, and probably will bring your current levels lower. I tried taking my homemade glucose disposal agent before a meal once, and I started getting the shakes and dizziness.
 
Its a potent means of cutting - you're keeping glucose out of the blood stream - but I'm uncertain whether burning protein instead of carb .... muscle protein ? :thinking:
 
It doesn't keep glucose out of the bloodstream. ALA, and it's many forms, help to increase the sensitivity of the receptors to insulin ad leads to less insulin being released. Insulin, while it is anabolic, can be detrimental to a physique because it may channel nutrients toward fat cells instead of muscle cells (depending on the environment and GLUT receptors activated).
 
Rodja said:
It doesn't keep glucose out of the bloodstream. ALA, and it's many forms, help to increase the sensitivity of the receptors to insulin ad leads to less insulin being released. Insulin, while it is anabolic, can be detrimental to a physique because it may channel nutrients toward fat cells instead of muscle cells (depending on the environment and GLUT receptors activated).
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then as I can be sure that pushes nutrients into muscle cells and not to fat?

:AR15firing:
 
Rodja said:
Through GLUT-4 activation. However, this is generally only stimulated by exercise.
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DAMN IT i down 100mg NaR-ALA and 400mg Gymnema Sylvestre Leaf Extract (25% Gymnemic Acid = 100 mg) before eat my lunch 50g of complex carbs
and i go to train 6 hours later in this lapse of time all of the carbs is converted in FAT?
 
MAxximal said:
DAMN IT i down 100mg NaR-ALA and 400mg Gymnema Sylvestre Leaf Extract (25% Gymnemic Acid = 100 mg) before eat my lunch 50g of complex carbs
and i go to train 6 hours later in this lapse of time all of the carbs is converted in FAT?
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Stop making this so complicated. Carbs are not converted to fat just because GLUT-4 is not activated. There are incalculable factors that go into metabolism that is beyond my knowledge.
 
Rodja said:
Stop making this so complicated. Carbs are not converted to fat just because GLUT-4 is not activated. There are incalculable factors that go into metabolism that is beyond my knowledge.
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You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Rodja again.
 
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