i am blown away by A4...just amazed at how fast and good the effects came on.
i would appreciate those who are using A4 to post up some feedback here.
i would appreciate those who are using A4 to post up some feedback here.
Hey BigTi am blown away by A4...just amazed at how fast and good the effects came on.
i would appreciate those who are using A4 to post up some feedback here.
i've ran oral 4-andro before, i 'almost' guarantee you that ALPHA FOUR will blow away the 4-andro you are currently using.Hey BigT
Just got my Ultra-Epi for the log. And I took advantage of Fourth of July sale for Alpha Four and Icon One.
I was running a light 1, 4 Andros stack past five week with some 19-nor for the joints and hunger.
So I will be able to comment oral vs high Dose TD of a continued andro stack from iconic.
Main review is on Ultra Epi, but since I have 4-andro and it clearly feels like test base then I can say how TD high dose 4-andro works. I respond well to Andros I just discovered via the cyclosomal delivery stuff from Hi-Tech.
Sorry saw your post and realized how I can get the most out of this log coming up.
Well the cyclosomal/liposomal delivery stuff is pretty good way to take Andros.. works!i've ran oral 4-andro before, i 'almost' guarantee you that ALPHA FOUR will blow away the 4-andro you are currently using.
i had to add the almost since there are no 100% certainties in life.
neck/shoulders/inner biceps/chestWell the cyclosomal/liposomal delivery stuff is pretty good way to take Andros.. works!
But Super excited to run higher dose with TD now my body is warmed up after 4-5 weeks back at it.
Not being a TD expert, best way to take Ultra Epi, let's say high dose to get that winny effect some mention? All at once or twice a day
Rub over shoulders, belly, wrists, other think skin areas with veins?
Yes I am. Using it with TD test and proviron. Added A4 about a week ago and so far I’m loving it.anyone else out there using Alpha Four?
amen, brother...give us a update every now and then!!!Yes I am. Using it with TD test and proviron. Added A4 about a week ago and so far I’m loving it.
Will doamen, brother...give us a update every now and then!!!
thank you, trying to get the word out on how good alpha four is!!!Will do
I will definitely share my thoughts. I love some androsterone.thank you, trying to get the word out on how good alpha four is!!!
4-andro?I will definitely share my thoughts. I love some androsterone.
Only used it in cap form and never really got much from it. Now back in the day you probably remember Biotest androsol. It was real 4ad TD (allegedly ) and that stuff was incredible. If A4 is half of that I will be impressed.4-andro?
my only other experience with 4-andro was OL's el1te4 which i ran with their el1te epi....i though that stack was great, i had bloods done which showed my test doubled from around 500 to over 1000...i don't have bloods to back it up, but from what i am experiencing Alpha Four/Ultra Epi is blowing that other stack out of the water.Only used it in cap form and never really got much from it. Now back in the day you probably remember Biotest androsol. It was real 4ad TD (allegedly ) and that stuff was incredible. If A4 is half of that I will be impressed.
With just a week in I cannot say much except for libido and energy.my only other experience with 4-andro was OL's el1te4 which i ran with their el1te epi....i though that stack was great, i had bloods done which showed my test doubled from around 500 to over 1000...i don't have bloods to back it up, but from what i am experiencing Alpha Four/Ultra Epi is blowing that other stack out of the water.
yeah, the libido/energy and mood enhancement hit me quick...give it another 5-7 days to start getting the other benefits.With just a week in I cannot say much except for libido and energy.
@BigRed1974 hows that libido, lol!!!!Been using the ALPHA FOUR for about 3 weeks now and loving it. Strength is up feeling fuller and recovery has been great. Iconic Formulations always come through with their products
I’m on vacation and haven’t worked out this week but I can tell you I look and feel pumped. Must be some glycogen uptake with A4. I’m usually a low carb guy but obviously this week I just eat and the extra carbs is doing it’s magic. Even my wife noticed I looked more muscular and she has no idea I even started A4.@BigRed1974 hows that libido, lol!!!!
Strong!! LOL@BigRed1974 hows that libido, lol!!!!
if i had to pick just one....Sounds like a great product
I’m on vacation and haven’t worked out this week but I can tell you I look and feel pumped. Must be some glycogen uptake with A4. I’m usually a low carb guy but obviously this week I just eat and the extra carbs is doing it’s magic. Even my wife noticed I looked more muscular and she has no idea I even started A4.
Will be ordering my 2nd bottle tomorrow!
i'm getting a 2nd bottle, this shyt is gold!!!
Ordered another one yesterday. Not doing it now but I’d like to double dose it just to see considering how mild it is. Running Proviron with it should keep E in check and lowering SBGH should help make it a little stronger.
i'm getting a 2nd bottle, this shyt is gold!!!
hope you used my code THEBIGT and saved 25% at iconicformulations.comOrdered another one yesterday. Not doing it now but I’d like to double dose it just to see considering how mild it is. Running Proviron with it should keep E in check and lowering SBGH should help make it a little stronger.
Always do. Thankshope you used my code THEBIGT and saved 25% at iconicformulations.com
be sure and update us!!!
Always do. Thanks
Honestly are you drinking it?got my alpha four and ultra hard today...never cease to be impressed with swift delivery from iconic!!!
nope, label clearly states for topical use only.Honestly are you drinking it?
You could choose to go with sustain alpha. Which is Iconics Libido/pct product or something like clomid. Both are good choices. If you need help find ING either PM me.Is a `proper` PCT/SERM required on the back of this?
How does Alpha Four compare to Alpha Seven in terms of noticeable gains or recomp effects? So far I am loving Seven but am really anxious to try Four too!just ordered my 2nd bottle of Alpha Four, and this time i got some Ultra Hard to go with it....
Alpha Four is the ticket!!!
seven is better for recomp, imo....if looking for mass Alpha Four is better.How does Alpha Four compare to Alpha Seven in terms of noticeable gains or recomp effects? So far I am loving Seven but am really anxious to try Four too!
How do you feel since you are coming off of it? And what is your PCT if you don’t mind me asking?1 month run complete. I really like this, not been this enthused since the Primordial days.
Supps:
Ran Alpha4, BLR - Follidrone, MGelz - Shred
(and some stables like PalmFruit Extract, Cissus, Circumin etc)
This is mostly me ramping up after gym re-opened 6 weeks ago. I have some equipment but not as much as gym. So call it a 60% 3 month layover.
General:
Later 30s male
5'10-5'11ish
Starting weight: 197
Ending weight: 206
Body fat went down some. For sure a visible difference maybe 1-2%.
Diet - I eat those ExceleV8 meals a lot - because I been workin too much lately to cook.
Notable Lift changes:
Deadlift - Beltless 5x5s hook grip went from 315 perceived hard to 340 fairly cruisin
Bench - 5x5s felt awful at 205 now upto 240 with not much trouble (bench was legit 3 month layover) pre-pandemic weight typically was 245x5x5 for a low baseline.
Squat - I have some hipflexor tendon stuff I am getting over so didn't push this up much on purpose
Also after week 2, volume-wise, I tolerated a lot of volume like deadlift 5x10 @ 225 after the 5x5s.
Mood/Energy:
Alpha4 seems to give the smoothest good feel and I love it.
Libido - went up 3 fold.
Mood - I generally took work stress well. I even started getting more at outdoor venues. Mood felt elevated just every day was a good day kinda feel.
High increase in appetite.
I have not used Alpha Four yet but do use the Alpha Gainz 4-andro and Androsterone, same raw source I believe, and they are a great addition to my protocol. I also used these when I was off TRT and they really are a great OTC option. I wish I had access to these back in the day when running PH/DS as they would have made life so much better.i am blown away by A4...just amazed at how fast and good the effects came on.
i would appreciate those who are using A4 to post up some feedback here.
Rumor had it some guys would add these cattle pellets and create a product dubbed finasol...........I mean who would do that hehehe.Only used it in cap form and never really got much from it. Now back in the day you probably remember Biotest androsol. It was real 4ad TD (allegedly ) and that stuff was incredible. If A4 is half of that I will be impressed.
Yes the carrier was just iso. LOL... I remember spraying that many before I went to work. An hour later and I was sticking to my seat. That product was great though. I was always skeptical what was in it because I got absolutely shredded on it and the nitrogen retention was incredible. It was very similar to Var.Rumor had it some guys would add these cattle pellets and create a product dubbed finasol...........I mean who would do that hehehe.
Androsol and nandrosol were awesome back then. I will say this if you run Alpha-4 high enough you can get the same effects as the carrier is SO MUCH better than those old Biotest products. The carrier back then I believe was almost pure isopropyl alcohol and a massive dose of 4diol, Alpha 4 also has the androstane which is great.
I do remember using androsol in the bathroom at work, 70 sprays BID, and people almost choking when going in there after me lol. Iconic Formulations are so much easier to apply and dry clean compared to the white powder patches of those old products lol.
OG 4diol was suspected, and I personally agree with this, to interact with the AR independent of test conversion. So essentially it was one of the first DS. I do believe much of the effect from the current 4andro/dhea is due to the conversion to 4-diol.Yes the carrier was just iso. LOL... I remember spraying that many before I went to work. An hour later and I was sticking to my seat. That product was great though. I was always skeptical what was in it because I got absolutely shredded on it and the nitrogen retention was incredible. It was very similar to Var.
I’m running it now and I’m also on TRT but I’d really like to double dose it for a month just for shits and giggles.OG 4diol was suspected, and I personally agree with this, to interact with the AR independent of test conversion. So essentially it was one of the first DS. I do believe much of the effect from the current 4andro/dhea is due to the conversion to 4-diol.
I might have to push alpha-4 to see if I can replicate the bygone products hmmmm....suposed to be staying on base trt and natty products.......must resist temptation........................resistance may be futile........
@delsolrob has knocked it out of the park with the new black series, great carrier and very mild on skin.Rumor had it some guys would add these cattle pellets and create a product dubbed finasol...........I mean who would do that hehehe.
Androsol and nandrosol were awesome back then. I will say this if you run Alpha-4 high enough you can get the same effects as the carrier is SO MUCH better than those old Biotest products. The carrier back then I believe was almost pure isopropyl alcohol and a massive dose of 4diol, Alpha 4 also has the androstane which is great.
I do remember using androsol in the bathroom at work, 70 sprays BID, and people almost choking when going in there after me lol. Iconic Formulations are so much easier to apply and dry clean compared to the white powder patches of those old products lol.
I figured as much. As soon as I finish my Alpha Gainz products I will be running this without a doubt.@delsolrob has knocked it out of the park with the new black series, great carrier and very mild on skin.
use my code THEBIGT and save 25% at iconicformulations.com....i have ran all of the black series and for me they are fantastic---i just finished a 4 month andro run and am on dermacrine/sustain alpha, don't need anything more since i've been on trt for 12+years.I figured as much. As soon as I finish my Alpha Gainz products I will be running this without a doubt.
alpha four is alphatastic!!!Alpha Four sales have really started to climb the last couple weeks...I think the word is getting out about it's effectiveness! Also, I think people are starting to prepare for bulking in the fall
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