Alcohol aromatizing injected test
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brundel
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This is an extreme case. I lose about 5-7 lbs in the first week,
Generally....this would indicate your estro levels were excessively high. I forget, had you run bloodwork or do you know roughly where your estro levels were?
I would certainly not expect muscle loss as Formeron is anabolic.
a quarter dose is almost nothing. I mean literally your talking about like 5mg formestane absorbed. Probably less lol.
Its possible that you lost a few lbs water weight from the reduction in estrogen followed by a loss of impacted fecal matter post diarrhea.
Most people have a few lbs waste in their intestines.
LMuscle
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That must be what it is. Because I don't feel sick at all. Probably a good thing to get all that doody outta there haha
brundel
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It really is a good thing actually. Keeping the pipes clean is a very important part of your overally health.
I do cleanses and take probiotics to keep intestinal health up. Youll absorb your food better now as well.
So....you lost 10lbs of garbage and water...this is a plus for sure.
I do cleanses and take probiotics to keep intestinal health up. Youll absorb your food better now as well.
So....you lost 10lbs of garbage and water...this is a plus for sure.
BBB
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Don't get me wrong, I think formestane is the best AI ever, but I really don't think you have too much to worry about from flavinoids...
October 14th, 2009 – A search on Google for 7,8-benzoflavone yields a link to a blogger who appears to have the opinion that 7,8-benzoflavone is a dangerous carcinogenic substance. They based this opinion on several studies which combined high levels of well known cancer causing substances, with 7,8-benzoflavone. They provided no references showing 7,8-benzoflavone is a carcinogenic substance in and of itself.
The first reference discusses the carcinogenbenzo[a]pyreneas being highly carcinogenic and that when combined with 7,8-benzoflavone, this can increase the rate of tumor formation. While this is true, this particular study foundzero tumor formation when 7,8-benzoflavone was used alone, and it in fact inhibited tumor formation caused by the more potent carcinogen7,12-dimethylbenz(a)anthracene(DMBA), thus offering a net protective effect against tumor formation. (1)
Other studies have also shown 7,8-benzoflavone has protective effects against cancer by inducing 2-hydroxylation of estrogens, thus increasing the clearance of estrogens and reducing cancer risk. (2-4)
Isolating flavonoids and carcinogens together in an in-vitro environment is a popular cancer research practice for studying the metabolism of cancer causing substances. Virtually all natural flavonoids (exp., quercetin, tangeretin, chrysin or nobiletin) have been found to negatively or positively metabolize carcinogenic chemicals in special test tube environments. However the research clearly shows a net anti-cancer effect from naturally occurring flavones. (5-7)
-Eric Potratz
Founder & President
October 14th, 2009 – A search on Google for 7,8-benzoflavone yields a link to a blogger who appears to have the opinion that 7,8-benzoflavone is a dangerous carcinogenic substance. They based this opinion on several studies which combined high levels of well known cancer causing substances, with 7,8-benzoflavone. They provided no references showing 7,8-benzoflavone is a carcinogenic substance in and of itself.
The first reference discusses the carcinogenbenzo[a]pyreneas being highly carcinogenic and that when combined with 7,8-benzoflavone, this can increase the rate of tumor formation. While this is true, this particular study foundzero tumor formation when 7,8-benzoflavone was used alone, and it in fact inhibited tumor formation caused by the more potent carcinogen7,12-dimethylbenz(a)anthracene(DMBA), thus offering a net protective effect against tumor formation. (1)
Other studies have also shown 7,8-benzoflavone has protective effects against cancer by inducing 2-hydroxylation of estrogens, thus increasing the clearance of estrogens and reducing cancer risk. (2-4)
Isolating flavonoids and carcinogens together in an in-vitro environment is a popular cancer research practice for studying the metabolism of cancer causing substances. Virtually all natural flavonoids (exp., quercetin, tangeretin, chrysin or nobiletin) have been found to negatively or positively metabolize carcinogenic chemicals in special test tube environments. However the research clearly shows a net anti-cancer effect from naturally occurring flavones. (5-7)
-Eric Potratz
Founder & President
AnabolicHolic
Banned
Man I got that damn bug.....not the stomach bug but the sore throat/sinus type thing. Been suffering from a sore throat and coughing for almost 2 weeks (Monday will be 2 weeks), along with some random sinus issues and of course raging headaches. I asked the GP for a script of antibiotics to get rid of the sore throat, and the lady on the phone said there is something going around and I need to wait until at least Monday....PFFFFFTTTT!!! I've never had a cold/sore throat linger for more than a week at most (usually 4-6 days max)....and I'm like wolverine, these things, along with cuts, heal/go away super fast. I need some mafcking antibiotics! Even though I don't really want to take them 
AnabolicHolic
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Ok got the lab results back from being on 150mg of forma (stanzol) for about 3 weeks or so....disappointing....estradiol was 44 down from 51 and total estrogens stayed the same. test was up from 960 to 1200 something, but that is bound to fluctuate with androgel in the mix (twice daily applications). This sucks. Got a formeron coming tomorrow...I will do 150-200mg of that for a month and retest I suppose. this is getting to be a royal PITA....I suppose the stanzol might be a poor transport, I will use formeron w/ my phlojel. ;pissedoff:
napalm
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Ok got the lab results back from being on 150mg of forma (stanzol) for about 3 weeks or so....disappointing....estradiol was 44 down from 51 and total estrogens stayed the same. test was up from 960 to 1200 something, but that is bound to fluctuate with androgel in the mix (twice daily applications). This sucks. Got a formeron coming tomorrow...I will do 150-200mg of that for a month and retest I suppose. this is getting to be a royal PITA....I suppose the stanzol might be a poor transport, I will use formeron w/ my phlojel. ;pissedoff:
Ugh...
AnabolicHolic
Banned
Might be that...added to the fact I have always been susceptible to aromatization/estrogen. But damn, thats a lot of rx grade AI to just get a 7 point drop. maybe the increased absorption will do the trick, along with (possibly) a better quality product. Twice daily applications probably lend to excessive estrogen conversion as opposed to twice weekly injections....but this is a bit ludicrous. I'll do 200mg per day with pholjel and see what happens.....