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So, time for update. Today, while taking my peptide and hcg shots, I noticed that my physique is way harder. My arms and delts, I just felt 'damn, that feels solid and hard!'. Props to my man @Mathb33 for the idea of combining Proviron with Anadrol. It seems like really good combination, good things out of both worlds. I feel strong and yet dry, not much watery. Weight is around 197 lbs, bf% is slowly going down and gear is finally kicking in. Today was legs and shoulders. There is some new lean meat.
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God damn bro you’re taking some size already lol! And yes anadrol + proviron was something I was very happy to try it’s a nice synergy
 
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Also, one more thing... A lot of people say they are concerned with aggression from Tren or Anadrol, and when you combine those two, it sounds scary. I myself had problems with aggression from Anadrol when I took it for the first time. But now, in combination with slower acting Tren, I don't feel that at all... I feel calm, don't give a fvck what people say or the things that would usually annoy me, I'm just calm and focused on my goals, not just in gym.
 

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You should try out tren ace 😆

And btw, your legs are looking significantly bigger, between me and you, i previously thought they were kinda lagging in comparison to your upper body, but now it can be seen that they are really getting bigger.
 
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You should try out tren ace 😆

And btw, your legs are looking significantly bigger, between me and you, i previously thought they were kinda lagging in comparison to your upper body, but now it can be seen that they are really getting bigger.
I considered option to take mix of Tren Ace and Tren Hex in same bottle, but this lab was way to go.
Thanks man, I gave them a bit of rest for a few weeks and when I stared hammering them, they exploded
 

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This damn log of yours makes me want to incorporate some peds hahahahaha

Even just mk677 man it does make a difference. After i stop with mk my damn stomach grows and arms shrink 😆

I think i may run 4-6 weeks mk677 + ghrp or ghrh stack once i start feeling better.

I dont think i will run any aas because i dont feel like going through pct and poisoning myself with serms.

And the labs i have done show that mk doesnt have anywhere near of a cardiac hypertrophy effect like aas do.

Also no rbc issues☺
 
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This damn log of yours makes me want to incorporate some peds hahahahaha

Even just mk677 man it does make a difference. After i stop with mk my damn stomach grows and arms shrink

I think i may run 4-6 weeks mk677 + ghrp or ghrh stack once i start feeling better.

I dont think i will run any aas because i dont feel like going through pct and poisoning myself with serms.

And the labs i have done show that mk doesnt have anywhere near of a cardiac hypertrophy effect like aas do.

Also no rbc issues
After mk your stomach grows and arms shrink???
 

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After mk your stomach grows and arms shrink???
Hahahahha i say this because when i use it i tend to think that while it is good it is not THAT impressive.

But when i stop pretty fast i start gaining fat and start losing muscle tone so it does make a big difference.
 
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Hahahahha i say this because when i use it i tend to think that while it is good it is not THAT impressive.

But when i stop pretty fast i start gaining fat and start losing muscle tone so it does make a big difference.
Do you tend to slack on food and gym when your not taking stuff? I know a lot of ppl fall in that trap.
 

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Do you tend to slack on food and gym when your not taking stuff? I know a lot of ppl fall in that trap.
No i am a constant. I am the one who does not increase frequency or volume when on stuff lol.


Right now i am not feeling good (cant do more than 5-6 lighter sets without feeling like passing out) but i definitely train the same both on and off mk677. There is a profound difference in pumps and muscle fullness.

Also fat gain/loss. I tend to notice i am losing fat as early as 7-10 days into mk. Same goes for fat gain after i stop.
 
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No i am a constant. I am the one who does not increase frequency or volume when on stuff lol.


Right now i am not feeling good (cant do more than 5-6 lighter sets without feeling like passing out) but i definitely train the same both on and off mk677. There is a profound difference in pumps and muscle fullness.

Also fat gain/loss. I tend to notice i am losing fat as early as 7-10 days into mk. Same goes for fat gain after i stop.
You should go all in when od PED's, thats the whole point of taking, to train harder, longer, more intense
 
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Looking good. Quads and lat width looking enhanced for sure!
Fortunately quads are responding nice and quick. From today I'll start with Deadlifts again in hope to pack some more lean mass and thickenss on back
 
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Time for an update. Today was pull day (Back and Biceps with some cardio). Yesterday my scale fvcked up, todays weight is 202 lbs (the heaviest I've ever been). Feel good, strong and to be honest, I like this look. Workout was like this
Wide grip lat pulldown
4x15 plus drop set 12
One arm cable row
15, 12, 12, 10
Close grip pulldown
15, 12, 10, 10
DB pickups from bench
4x12
One arm lat pulldown
15, 12, 10
Upper back BB row
3x8
Cable pull traps
3x12
Parallel biceps curl on incline
15, 12, 10
Forced biceps bb curl on incline
4x12
Bicpes curls on lat machine over head
15, 12, 12
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Todays leg/delt workout was awesome. Anadrol really is something to help you grow and push further, strength, focus, fullness... Also, apetite is starting to rise by a lot.
Todays Workout
Seated leg curl
18, 16, 14, 12
Leg extension machine
5x15 plus drop set of 12
BB Squat
12, 10, 10, 8
Bulgarian DB split squat
4x 8
Supersetted with
One leg hamstring curl on leg ext machine
4x10
Standing calf raise
3x15
Tibialis band contraction
3x 20
DELTS
Side lateral DB Raise
12, 10, 10, 10, 8/16
Seated DB press
12, 10, 10, 8/16
Bent over seated rear delt raise
3x15
 
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Update time. Feeling Tren finally kicking in, body temp is up, wascularity is getting better and strength is retarded. Today was push day (upper chest/triceps). Needless to say, I'm feeling really good and physique is morphing nicely. Weight is 203 lbs.
Workout
Incline BB bench press
12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 8 plus drop set of 15
Incline DB bench press
12/24, 12/24, 8/16 (Seth sets-lower weight by 50% and go double the reps)
Incline DB Fly's
10, 10, 10, 10
Supersetted with incline bench push ups
15, 15, 12, 12
Seated low to high cable crossover
15, 12, 12
Cable rope pullover (on cable row machine)
15, 12, 12
Triceps
One arm reverse pushdown
16, 14, 12
V-bar cable overhead ext
16, 14, 12
X tricpes
15, 12, 12
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Update time. Feeling Tren finally kicking in, body temp is up, wascularity is getting better and strength is retarded. Today was push day (upper chest/triceps). Needless to say, I'm feeling really good and physique is morphing nicely. Weight is 203 lbs.
Workout
Incline BB bench press
12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 8 plus drop set of 15
Incline DB bench press
12/24, 12/24, 8/16 (Seth sets-lower weight by 50% and go double the reps)
Incline DB Fly's
10, 10, 10, 10
Supersetted with incline bench push ups
15, 15, 12, 12
Seated low to high cable crossover
15, 12, 12
Cable rope pullover (on cable row machine)
15, 12, 12
Triceps
One arm reverse pushdown
16, 14, 12
V-bar cable overhead ext
16, 14, 12
X tricpes
15, 12, 12
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Jeez dude. Great progress
 
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I missed some stuff and I'd rather not reread 23 pages lol but in case it wasn't mentioned. How is the dac feeling at 2.5 and how often are you dosing it?
 
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I missed some stuff and I'd rather not reread 23 pages lol but in case it wasn't mentioned. How is the dac feeling at 2.5 and how often are you dosing it?
It's good, feels like it's mild, but it really does the job. My nails, hair, beard grows crazy fast, recovery is good, sleep also. I micro dose it every day
 
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Time for an update.
Today, I can say that I feel that all the drugs have kicked in. Vascularity, strength, recovery, intesity, drive and focus, everything is there. Weight is currently 195 lbs.
Today I also took pre workout with DMAA in it, to be honest, thats one of the best ingridients you can have in your pre workout.
Today was push day (middle and lower chest and triceps)
Flat BB bench press
12, 12, 12, 10, 4 plus drop set of 10 plus 12
Low incline (15°) DB press
4 x 12
Flat DB fly's
3 x12
Supersetted with plate squeze
3 x 12
Gironda chest dips
4 x 6
Supersetted with lower chest cable push
4x 12
Triceps rope pushdown
15, 12, 10
Wide grip on lat machine triceps pushdown
16, 14, 12, 10
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DMAA is the tits. If I don’t pass out bending over to deadlift from my blood pressure when on it, I’m probably going to pull a PR!
 
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DMAA is the tits. If I don’t pass out bending over to deadlift from my blood pressure when on it, I’m probably going to pull a PR!
Haha, yup! It hypes you up to do crazy lifts, add a bit of good music and you'll grow
 

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Yup, the more I focus on myslelf and my progress, the more antisocial I get.... and thats fine by me, but those shirts are pure gold
I would say with all these forums and logs, we are merely shifting a lot of our social activity online.
We are living online more and more.
 
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I would say with all these forums and logs, we are merely shifting a lot of our social activity online.
We are living online more and more.
Well, not so much online either. I'm here bc this is my area of interest. I find people generally annoying. But we here do have nice talks and mess around
 
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Time for an update. Strength is rising constantly, I'm feeling more and more full, yet hard. Bf is starting to go down, and no signs of aggression or iritability.
Pics are from friday's pull workout.
Wide grip front pulldown
4x15 plus drop set of 12
Close grip seated cable row
15, 15, 12, 10 plus drop set of 15
Reverse close grip pulldown on incline bench
4x15
Underhand lat pulldown
15, 12, 10
DB shrugs
12, 10, 10
Kneelig cobra pull with cables
15, 15, 15
Hammer curls with plates on preacher bench
Start with 3 (3x22 lbs) plates until failiure, than proceed in drop set till failiure with 2 and with one plate
12, 12, 12
10, 8, 12
'No money' db curls
12, 12, 12, 10, 8
On lat machine, overhead curls
12, 12, 12
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To guys who used these...
How would you compare Oral Trest to M1Alpha?

Don't start with 'trest has short half-life', and so on, I've seen this shyt works wonders on few people. But I'm short of experience with M1A.

Any input would be helpful
 
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Never used Trest so I can’t help. But M1A is probably the strongest designer still on the ‘legal’ market. At 40-45mg it produces really good lean mass gains and definitely strength. 60mg I haven’t used it yet but many do.
 
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Never used Trest so I can’t help. But M1A is probably the strongest designer still on the ‘legal’ market. At 40-45mg it produces really good lean mass gains and definitely strength. 60mg I haven’t used it yet but many do.
Thank you brother for your input! I've wanted to try M1A for a few years now, and I think I will after I stop with Anadrol
 

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Isn't trest supposed to be terribly suppressive? Perhaps we cyclers should proceed with caution.

If you are thinking preworkout...didnt take it but heard that oral trest is pretty awesome.

Btw if you go with m1a that will be 15 weeks of methyls.
Make sure you take your milk thistle 😂😂



Sorry man hahahah had to do it i remember there was a thread once where guy was talking about running superdrol and another methyl back to back for like 10 weeks and the first reply was "make sure to take your milk thistle" i simply burst into laughter.
 
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Isn't trest supposed to be terribly suppressive? Perhaps we cyclers should proceed with caution.

If you are thinking preworkout...didnt take it but heard that oral trest is pretty awesome.

Btw if you go with m1a that will be 15 weeks of methyls.
Make sure you take your milk thistle 😂😂



Sorry man hahahah had to do it i remember there was a thread once where guy was talking about running superdrol and another methyl back to back for like 10 weeks and the first reply was "make sure to take your milk thistle" i simply burst into laughter.
Well, oral Trest is not so much, from what I've seen on guys in my gym. If I decide for Trest, I'd dose it 40 mg pre workout and 20 mg during the rest of the day.
As far as methyls go, I don't get much toxicity from them generally, I'd probably take a break for few days in between, but toxicity of these compounds in my stack is not concerning, at least for me
 
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To guys who used these...
How would you compare Oral Trest to M1Alpha?

Don't start with 'trest has short half-life', and so on, I've seen this shyt works wonders on few people. But I'm short of experience with M1A.

Any input would be helpful
M1a only makes me stronger, not bigger. For this reason I only use it as a pre-workout. If I was to use it regular in a cycle I would in attempt to make strength pr's

Lots of other ppl say they blow up on it.

Because you're comparing it to oral trest I'm assuming u want it pre workout?
 
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M1a only makes me stronger, not bigger. For this reason I only use it as a pre-workout. If I was to use it regular in a cycle I would in attempt to make strength pr's

Lots of other ppl say they blow up on it.

Because you're comparing it to oral trest I'm assuming u want it pre workout?
Well not so much pre workout, but generally those two sound like some nice, lean, maybe a bit of water, builders. Both of them seem to shoot strength high up
 
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