Unanswered Alchemist's lean mass cycle (SD, Primo, Tren Hex and Var)

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It gives you a ton of strength, and clean strength, not close-to-heartattack-strength of water like Dbol or Anadrol.
Many of guys didn't tried legit Anavar.
And also, I believe in this, your blood type determens greatly how will you react to certan compound. I have yet to explore this theory but I think it has something to do with that.
Intriguing about the blood types and reactions. I’d love to see some studies done on this
 

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Do you feel that 3-400mg primo is doing anything? Are the gains better than just on test/tren?
 
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And you are looking more monstrous than last week even. Gaining nicely!
Thanks man, I'm really pushing as hard and as smart as I can and I really enjoy this process.
And I'll try to dig and post some studies
 
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Do you feel that 3-400mg primo is doing anything? Are the gains better than just on test/tren?
I was afraid that he could be overshined by the Tren, but I do feel it and it most definitely puts a few lean gains on me also
 
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Thanks man, I'm really pushing as hard and as smart as I can and I really enjoy this process.
And I'll try to dig and post some studies
Don’t know if there are too many to be honest. But I’ve also pondered this whole idea just based on observations and reactions from this forum....
I will say though, your log and personal gains have inspired my next go round. Might shoot ya a dm in a few months lol
 
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Don’t know if there are too many to be honest. But I’ve also pondered this whole idea just based on observations and reactions from this forum....
I will say though, your log and personal gains have inspired my next go round. Might shoot ya a dm in a few months lol
No problem man, there are more and more guys in my dm running stacks that we put together, I'm here to help
 

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Wait is that the Diamond cup from 24th of april to the 27th?
 
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Also, one announcement I'm very happy to make and share with you guys, you have here one Classic physique competitor for spring of 2020.
Awesome bro!!!

Keep killing it. Can wait follow along for the ride.
 
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It gives you a ton of strength, and clean strength, not close-to-heartattack-strength of water like Dbol or Anadrol.
Many of guys didn't tried legit Anavar.
And also, I believe in this, your blood type determens greatly how will you react to certan compound. I have yet to explore this theory but I think it has something to do with that.
That’s an interesting theory, and if valid, would be helpful for many.
 
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That’s an interesting theory, and if valid, would be helpful for many.
I tried to find it last night, but with little to no success. I've seen a few pages on that, few years back, it's out there, but we have yet to dig that up
 
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Shredds are coming into place, starting with Anavar depot from tuesday
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Chest/traps looks huge. Seeing more abs too

Anavar injectable?
I'm really proud of my tiddies lol
Yes, I stocked up on it before it was gone, I saved about enough for this cycle. But I also have Anavar depot tablets, thet have about the same effect
 

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I'm really proud of my tiddies lol
Yes, I stocked up on it before it was gone, I saved about enough for this cycle. But I also have Anavar depot tablets, thet have about the same effect
Oh I was confused as it was called depot. Always thought depot meant an oil based inject
 
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Oh I was confused as it was called depot. Always thought depot meant an oil based inject
99% of time it is, but I stumbled on this form of oral and fuuuuck does it get the job done...
 

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Been lurking on here, impressive gains and info! I appreciate your time. Keep killing it!!
 

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I'm really proud of my tiddies lol
Yes, I stocked up on it before it was gone, I saved about enough for this cycle. But I also have Anavar depot tablets, thet have about the same effect
In to see changes with var added in
 

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Trust me, as many times as I take it so far, I'm still excited like a little kid
It will be interesting to see how it compares, ie how much it affects you considering that by now you have mostly been on heavy hitters (test, tren and superdrol).
 
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It will be interesting to see how it compares, ie how much it affects you considering that by now you have mostly been on heavy hitters (test, tren and superdrol).
It still has, and always will have place in my heart! Lol
But in all honesty, it will be nice boost to add in something after several weeks of same compounds. I can't say enough good things about Anavar, awesome compound
 

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Well in a perfect situation with an access to all pharmaceutical gear that i can just walk into the pharmacy and buy and unlimited resources, i dont see myself running anything but test, primo and anavar stacks.
but anavar, being an oral, only for a short time.
 
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Well in a perfect situation with an access to all pharmaceutical gear that i can just walk into the pharmacy and buy and unlimited resources, i dont see myself running anything but test, primo and anavar stacks.
but anavar, being an oral, only for a short time.
Thats my next cycle, after a longer break
 

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But dont you have a contest in spring? I am interested to see how will you approach your contest prep.

Or is this cycle kind of contest prep and you plan on competing post pct or on a cruise?
 
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But dont you have a contest in spring? I am interested to see how will you approach your contest prep.

Or is this cycle kind of contest prep and you plan on competing post pct or on a cruise?
Yes, that's complicated situation, and some bold decisions will have to be made
 

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Yes, that's complicated situation, and some bold decisions will have to be made
🤔 Guess you could take a short break and make the most out of it by detoxing and a small PCT? Closer to the show you could use mainly hardening compounds again?
 

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Yes, that's complicated situation, and some bold decisions will have to be made
Exactly, i had a feeling that timing is a bit off with this cycle, ie that you will have to incorporate another "mini blast" as a contest prep cycle outside of your regularly planned cycle schedule.
 

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But, to be completely honest and not cocky at all, I believe in my ideas, knowlegde, and think that I could do competition with stack of peptides, igf-1, mk-677 and cardarine/sr9009.
And then , like 1-2 weeks out, run anavar or winny ? That wouldn’t be too stressful to your body
 
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🤔 Guess you could take a short break and make the most out of it by detoxing and a small PCT? Closer to the show you could use mainly hardening compounds again?
To be completely honest and not cocky at all, I believe in my ideas, knowlegde, and think that I could do competition with stack of peptides, igf-1, mk-677 and cardarine/sr9009
 

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I vouch for high dose proviron right before the show, if going with minimalistic approach as far as AAS are concerned.
 
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I vouch for high dose proviron right before the show, if going with minimalistic approach as far as AAS are concerned.
And Proviron, yes! I'll have to note this so I won't forget that lol
But still, it's fuucked up, bc there wasn't any info on competitons for 2020. in my coutry, and I was clueless. But, we'll see
 

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And Proviron, yes! I'll have to note this so I won't forget that lol
But still, it's fuucked up, bc there wasn't any info on competitons for 2020. in my coutry, and I was clueless. But, we'll see
I’m planning for this summer for my second. It’s NPC but a local/small show. I did NGA this summer which is natural.

I need to get on some sort of aas to compete in it as other guys will be using but I’m paranoid and my finances :/ . This thread will be helpful though.
 
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I’m planning for this summer for my second. It’s NPC but a local/small show. I did NGA this summer which is natural.

I need to get on some sort of aas to compete in it as other guys will be using but I’m paranoid and my finances :/ . This thread will be helpful though.
Nice, we'll be here, sharing experiences and knowledge, I'm happy for that.
 

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I am not all that well versed when it comes to contest prep, but from what i have been seeing lately it seems like it is better to focus as much as possible on conditioning rather than to try to look huge and full.

That is how it seems to me.

That one pic you posted when we talked about running tren in a high estrogen environment, that is perfect. Add 150mg of proviron per day and you are show ready.
 
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I am not all that well versed when it comes to contest prep, but from what i have been seeing lately it seems like it is better to focus as much as possible on conditioning rather than to try to look huge and full.

That is how it seems to me.

That one pic you posted when we talked about running tren in a high estrogen environment, that is perfect. Add 150mg of proviron per day and you are show ready.
As much as people say it's not all about gear... It acctually is, trick is to have quality stuff, and you'll get more from less of it.
Contest prep is a mess... But luckily I now have a lot of people around me who said that they will get me trough whole process, I just have to say 'yes', so, that's nice. It's really nice to have people who believe in you and want you to try something like that, it does give you a lot of motivation.
And 50% of that are you guys also!
 

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What’s your current weight, and what are your current macros?
 

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What’s your current weight, and what are your current macros?
 
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Todays pull day was nuts. Empty gym just for me, no stress, empty head and just focus. Also, second pic with biceps was before I even did biceps (and to note one thing, I use straps, and pull most exercises without thumb to avoid biceps activation during back workouts). Guess even Primo now starts to shine. Btw, I do have shorts on second pic lol
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Todays pull day was nuts. Empty gym just for me, no stress, empty head and just focus. Also, second pic with biceps was before I even did biceps (and to note one thing, I use straps, and pull most exercises without thumb to avoid biceps activation during back workouts). Guess even Primo now starts to shine. Btw, I do have shorts on second pic lol
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You crushed my hopes and dreams. I was imagining no shorts
 
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Todays pull day was nuts. Empty gym just for me, no stress, empty head and just focus. Also, second pic with biceps was before I even did biceps (and to note one thing, I use straps, and pull most exercises without thumb to avoid biceps activation during back workouts). Guess even Primo now starts to shine. Btw, I do have shorts on second pic lol
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You crushed my hopes and dreams. I was imagining no shorts
I'll try to suggest to the owner, one no pants/shorts day every month
 

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So you are 5'11, 199 lbs... what do you reckon is your bodyfat percentage roughly? 10 % ?
 

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