Unanswered Alchemist's lean mass cycle (SD, Primo, Tren Hex and Var)

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Buckle up once again my friends because it's again that time of the year, time for gains and my detailed log on this awesome place.
Cycle is this
Sustanon 250
1-12 (250-500 mg) per week
Superdrol
1-4 20 mg ED
Primobolan
1-12 (300-400 mg) per week
Parabolan
3-12 (200-225mg-depending if I choose to take it in vial or amps)
Anavar depot
6-13 60 mg
Hcg
3-13/14 500-750 iu's per week.
Current weight around 185 lbs, bf%, don't know-don't care, I go with the mirror, aesthetics and performance.
Goal is to recomp and proportionaly add quality muscle. Goal is classic look.
Here are starting pics
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I see you say 250-500mg of test per week.
Are you running any kind of pyramid scheme (starting, say at 250 and upping as the cycle progresses) or do you just pin as you wish?
 
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I see you say 250-500mg of test per week.
Are you running any kind of pyramid scheme (starting, say at 250 and upping as the cycle progresses) or do you just pin as you wish?
As I wish/recover/perform
 
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thats a shat ton of parabolan. in for the abuse.
 
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I'm happy and proud that all of you guys are here and following
I seems like we have the same goals in mind for our upcoming blasts. I feel like there is less pressure involved in a recomp, like not having to stuff your face everyday. It’s not possible that less food will ever make you look worse!
 
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I seems like we have the same goal in mine for our upcoming blasts. I feel like there is less pressure involved in a recomp, like not having to stuff your face everyday. It’s not possible that less food will ever make you look worse!
Thats for sure. I never tried to eat more, I just eat as much as I think I need to to recover and thats been realy working well for me. If you look at the classic guys from 70s, they never realy got in thw bulking state, the were lean all year with minor fluctuations... Just slow and steady progress
 
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Thats for sure. I never tried to eat more, I just eat as much as I think I need to to recover and thats been realy working well for me. If you look at the classic guys from 70s, they never realy got in thw bulking state, the were lean all year with minor fluctuations... Just slow and steady progress
Even more amazing they did it with little to no gear! Mind blowing! 🤯
 

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Even more amazing they did it with little to no gear! Mind blowing! 🤯
That is one thing i always wanted to know. For example how much gear did Arnold take, what was his cycle structure...

All we know is that he was taking a "handful" of dianabols a day.
 

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I interested in how the primo threats you. I’ll be following if you don’t mind?
I dont know if that dose of primo is going to give him anything at his stage of development. When it coms to anabolic potency of 300-400mg of primo, that is basically like 150-200mg of test.
i know of people saying they have run gram of primo and gained only like 2 lbs (of lean muscle).

But i am not speaking from experience so we will see...
 
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That is one thing i always wanted to know. For example how much gear did Arnold take, what was his cycle structure...

All we know is that he was taking a "handful" of dianabols a day.
So the story goes? 🙄
 
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I dont know if that dose of primo is going to give him anything at his stage of development. When it coms to anabolic potency of 300-400mg of primo, that is basically like 150-200mg of test.
i know of people saying they have run gram of primo and gained only like 2 lbs (of lean muscle).

But i am not speaking from experience so we will see...
The primo should help solidify the gains he makes on SD, SuST, Tren, Var. The SD, and Sust, are the heavy hitters in the stack.
Most people don’t make weight gains on Tren either. It’s there for the strength and recomp effect.
 
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I seems like we have the same goal in mine for our upcoming blasts. I feel like there is less pressure involved in a recomp, like not having to stuff your face everyday. It’s not possible that less food will ever make you look worse!
Thats for sure. I never tried to eat more, I just eat as much as I think I need to to recover and thats been realy working well for me. If you look at the classic guys from 70s, they never realy got in thw bulking state, the were lean all year with minor fluctuations... Just slow and steady progress
Even more amazing they did it with little to no gear! Mind blowing! 🤯
Well, some of them were using modsrate dosages, but some abused the **** out of gear...
 
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The primo should help solidify the gains he makes on SD, SuST, Tren, Var. The SD, and Sust, are the heavy hitters in the stack.
Most people don’t make weight gains on Tren either. It’s there for the strength and recomp effect.
Yes, that was my logic also
 
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Glad you are all guys here and interested in my work and progress!
 
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So today beeing my 4th day on this stack (without Anavar and Tren yet), it's a still a bit early to say things, but SD is filling me up nicely. I do feel a bit harder overall and you know your gear is kicking in when you are pumped as hell and you still can see definition of that muscle.
 
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You’re going to freeeaaaaking love SD.
Well, that and you’ll hate life and want to die at the same time.
I want some strawberry fields pics this time again!
I hope I will. If I managed to survive 5 weeks of Anadrol, I think I can endure anything. Lol
No man, nothing from them 'till April! We have warm summers, but realy cold winters also. I took one and keep it in my room, grooming it and raising it and experimenting on it during winter just for fun. But, last year, I did have one good, red strawberry in field in 19 th of November ( usualy way, way late for them).
 

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Off topic, but i picked a few woodland (wild) strawberies on my property about a week ago.

Was totally surprised to find them at this time of the year.
 
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Off topic, but i picked a few woodland (wild) strawberies on my property about a week ago.

Was totally surprised to find them at this time of the year.
They tend to be delicious, I heared and smell amazing!
 

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Also wanted to add that i am glad that you are running hcg throughout...gives you the ability to still be able to naturally produce test down the road if you decide that this is no longer for you
 
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Also wanted to add that i am glad that you are running hcg throughout...gives you the ability to still be able to naturally produce test down the road if you decide that this is no longer for you
Yeah, hcg is great, cheap, but its worth much more than it costs. And gives you calmer, more complete feeling in your head on cycle. Good stuff
 
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So, first update, 5 days in. SD is starting to kick in. I feel its realy dry out side of the muscles, like skin is getting thinner, and I'm around 2 lbs heavier. And I feel harder and harder day by day. Can't wait till I see how my strength will be on SD.
 
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So, first update, 5 days in. SD is starting to kick in. I feel its realy dry out side of the muscles, like skin is getting thinner, and I'm around 2 lbs heavier. And I feel harder and harder day by day. Can't wait till I see how my strength will be on SD.
Pretty much strongest oral for strength I’ve used.
Winny/epi/Msten being a somewhat distant second.
 
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Haven’t tried sd yet so...Halotestin for the strength win for me. Just plain silly how light everything becomes.
 
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Day 5th on SD, still waiting for it to fully kick in. Did some serious shoulders and biceps workout. Pump is getting better and better, muscles feel bit more dense, and more hard. Vascularity is also on the rise.
When does SD kick in for you guys?
 
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Also, yesterday, I ate a ton of carbs, like a lot, and in the evening when I went to gym, I was still dry as desert, fun stuff.
 
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Day 5th on SD, still waiting for it to fully kick in. Did some serious shoulders and biceps workout. Pump is getting better and better, muscles feel bit more dense, and more hard. Vascularity is also on the rise.
When does SD kick in for you guys?
I feel it from the start but really notice strength gains 7 days in and the insane sometimes debilitating pumps.
 

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