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AG’s Geozine Cycle Log

Chados said:
I'm always confused when people have hard times on epistane. Companies always gone out saying its mild with low sides and running it myself I didn't feel anything good or bad just a slight increase in strength and some definition, I also have friends that ran it (beginners) with no sides. I guess it dries some people out pretty good.
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Goes back to what Hyde was saying about different personal responses. I’ve tried 2 different brands and exact same result. Hurt so bad I literally could not lift.
 
SkRaw85 said:
Goes back to what Hyde was saying about different personal responses. I’ve tried 2 different brands and exact same result. Hurt so bad I literally could not lift.
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I agree, I could see it with many compounds but epistane is one I'd expect most people to handle. I think AnabolicGuru seems to be quite tolerant though having ran a few orals so hopefully we'll have a side friendly log :)
 
Epistane dried me out for sure. Achey joints the last week. But i loved the “on” feeling i got from it both times i ran it.
 
mikeymike85 said:
What was harsh about epi? It's the one old school pH I havent ran, and would like to in 2 months... I'm ordering Havoc in the next couple days. I can handle everything besides anxiety and HBP.
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SkRaw85 said:
I have never been able to finish an epi cycle. My joints and tendons cripple me as fast as week 2
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Bingo. See how well your power training cycle goes when you feel like your knees are going to explode out from under you on a heavy squat lol

I would only recommend it with wetter cycles like with Trest or higher test. I actually got rid of all of the epi I had stashed, that’s how bad it hurt. When my joints were younger I could get away with it.
 
Hyde said:
Bingo. See how well your power training cycle goes when you feel like your knees are going to explode out from under you on a heavy squat lol

I would only recommend it with wetter cycles like with Trest or higher test. I actually got rid of all of the epi I had stashed, that’s how bad it hurt. When my joints were younger I could get away with it.
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Man how old are you lol
 
TheMovement said:
Man how old are you lol
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28, but I started cycling designers when I was 21. Been strength training since I was 20, so there’s a little wear and tear lol

I should add my first cycle was Epistane solo, and at just 30mg my joints were creaking fiercely back then. It makes me strong and gives a nice look but there’s just too many other good compounds to enjoy that don’t hurt for the same results.
 
Hyde said:
28, but I started cycling designers when I was 21. Been strength training since I was 20, so there’s a little wear and tear lol

I should add my first cycle was Epistane solo, and at just 30mg my joints were creaking fiercely back then. It makes me strong and gives a nice look but there’s just too many other good compounds to enjoy that don’t hurt for the same results.
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Thats extremely helpful! Being 28 myself I have always been on the fence and have had some cartilage issues in the past and currently still function with a torn ACL. Its always to have more reason to stay safe then sorry when there are other choices on the table.
 
TheMovement said:
Thats extremely helpful! Being 28 myself I have always been on the fence and have had some cartilage issues in the past and currently still function with a torn ACL. Its always to have more reason to stay safe then sorry when there are other choices on the table.
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Exactly. OP is going to have it made with the Geozine! I remember training 6 days a week on Msten and I could not get sore - the muscle recovery was phenomenal. Unfortunately, so was the cramping and blood pressure

But those can be mitigated a lot by the educated user - I was a lot less informed then.
 
Well I had to cancel both my orders for k1ngsguard due to suspicious activity. I’ll be ordering cel cycle assist instead and starting the cycle on Monday.
 
Glad ya still got what ya need!
 
AnabolicGuru said:
They weren’t sending me any shipment confirmations, they were deleting my confirmation emails, not replying to my emails/calls etc.
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Sounds like NutraPlanet! I would email the company (whomever it is) and tell them if they don’t refund your money you will contact the credit card company to reverse the charge. They will refund you then because when that happens the vendor has to pay an additional fee to the credit card company in addition to losing the money they received from you.
 
Day 1: Weighed in at 190lbs this morning; trained chest/tris/delts. Obviously not much to expect this early on, but I will say that my pumps were pretty good. Workout lasted about 2 hours. Put up 275 for 4 reps on the bench, so hopefully a week from now I’ll be repping it for a good 6-7.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Welcome man. And yea, first time. I tried to run it in the past but the batch I had turned out bunk lol.
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I think you'll like it. For bulking there arent many orals as good with minimal sides. It beats a lot of aas for mass for sure. It's versatile tho can be used for recomp and even cutting. I would only run it as a builder tho. It loves carbs... Really dry gains too!

I think you'll like it better than tbol or epistane. I know you have a good foundation too so it should help you slap on some mass if thats what you're after...
 
Godstrength said:
I think you'll like it. For bulking there arent many orals as good with minimal sides. It beats a lot of aas for mass for sure. It's versatile tho can be used for recomp and even cutting. I would only run it as a builder tho. It loves carbs... Really dry gains too!

I think you'll like it better than tbol or epistane. I know you have a good foundation too so it should help you slap on some mass if thats what you're after...
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Yea man I’m using it to bulk. I’ll slowly work my calories up to 4000-4250. Currently around 3250-3500 probably. How would you compare it to methylstenbolone?
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Yea man I’m using it to bulk. I’ll slowly work my calories up to 4000-4250. Currently around 3250-3500 probably. How would you compare it to methylstenbolone?
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Honestly ive never run msten. My understanding is theyre pretty interchangeable. I think dmz is a little drier from people I know that have ran both. And again with dmz I can't emphasize carbs enough. It shuttles it to the right places. Week 3-4 is where dmz really shines and you should see gains rolling through week 5 if you have enough. Plenty of protein and carbs you should grow like crazy.

You should hit 205 easy after 5 weeks and could see 210 imo. 45mg was my sweet spot. Just make sure your eating enough carbs to grow.
 
I calculated my macros today to see where I’m at and got this. 280p, 310c, 135f. So around 3575 calories today. I’ll probably keep my calories around this for the next week or two before bumping them up.
 
mikeymike85 said:
What was harsh about epi? It's the one old school pH I havent ran, and would like to in 2 months... I'm ordering Havoc in the next couple days. I can handle everything besides anxiety and HBP.
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Where are you finding havoc ? Rpn still around . I know for a while a bunch of fake havoc was floating around .
 
Day 2: Weighed 189lbs this morning and trained back/bis/traps. Didn’t get that good of a lift today; felt kinda weak and low on energy, plus my lower back was killing me which made it near impossible to do any rowing. Probably wont go too hard on legs tomorrow to avoid making my lower back worse. I’m also dropping the preworkout tomorrow and just going with creatine and caffeine pwo. I needed to stop pwo for a good while anyways.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Day 2: Weighed 189lbs this morning and trained back/bis/traps. Didn’t get that good of a lift today; felt kinda weak and low on energy, plus my lower back was killing me which made it near impossible to do any rowing. Probably wont go too hard on legs tomorrow to avoid making my lower back worse. I’m also dropping the preworkout tomorrow and just going with creatine and caffeine pwo. I needed to stop pwo for a good while anyways.
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I stopped pwo altogether a couple months ago. I ran vasoblitz for a month (awesome product btw) but since then ive just been having a couple cups of coffee in the am before going to the gym
 
christ83189 said:
I stopped pwo altogether a couple months ago. I ran vasoblitz for a month (awesome product btw) but since then ive just been having a couple cups of coffee in the am before going to the gym
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It’s a pain in the ass for me to stay away from it. I quit it for a while on my last cycle but once I try it again, I just abuse the **** out of it lmao.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
It’s a pain in the ass for me to stay away from it. I quit it for a while on my last cycle but once I try it again, I just abuse the **** out of it lmao.
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I used to be the same way but a couple months ago i just started getting sick every time i took pwo so i was kinda forced to stop lol
 
christ83189 said:
I used to be the same way but a couple months ago i just started getting sick every time i took pwo so i was kinda forced to stop lol
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Yea it makes me almost puke up my food when I take it lmao. Hopefully this time I can stick to not taking preworkout for good because my body doesn’t like it.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Yea it makes me almost puke up my food when I take it lmao. Hopefully this time I can stick to not taking preworkout for good because my body doesn’t like it.
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LG science had a pre workout that claimed it was like a gram of test years ago. I puked it up every time I took it
 
Smont said:
LG science had a pre workout that claimed it was like a gram of test years ago. I puked it up every time I took it
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Lg Science was garbage lmao. I remember calling them out before for lying to people and I got banned. They literally said epistane was an aromatize inhibitor and that their ****ty andros were way stronger LOL.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Lg Science was garbage lmao. I remember calling them out before for lying to people and I got banned. They literally said epistane was an aromatize inhibitor and that their ****ty andros were way stronger LOL.
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Yes they were garbage after a point in time but I'm immune to caffeine so whatever was in that pwo was some banned ****
 
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