??? about prop

s.norman

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does the length of the ester change the properties of test?does prop have the same mass building properties as enanthate? although i have made some nice lean gains on prop at 700mg/wk with 1-test at 600mg/wk, i have not made the mass gains i was looking for. i am 7 weeks in on a 13 week cycle. its my 1st time using test and compared to 2g 4ad cyp for bulking-4ad cyp wins hand down. now for cutting/lean gains prop wins hands down. hpoefully someone can shed some light on what the diff. testosterones are used for.
 
What is of note with propionate, is that users have successfully incorporated it into cutting cycles as well. Especially people who tend to lose a lot of mass normally during extreme diet phases find this useful. By injecting every two or three days and using only 50-75 mg each time, no notable water builds up (or at least none that can't be fixed with proviron, arimidex or winstrol) and no fat is deposited, thus allowing a user to stay relatively lean. So this type of testosterone can be used to keep gaining or retaining mass until 2-3 weeks out of contest time with relatively little difficulty. Although most will choose to add Proviron (50-100 mg/day) out of precaution. Its best use is of course still in bulking phases to pack on mass. Testosterone is not the king of the hill of all mass-builders for nothing.

From the way this sounds it is great for packing on mass.
 
I think from what I have come to understand test is a mass builder although it can be used to cut, and they differ for how long they stay active in you and how fast they kick in which than reflects how often you need to inject. But if you read the steroid profiles at bb.com they are all referred to as mass builders
 
i forgot to mention that i am using letro at 1mg/day and 2 otc diuretics (dandelion leaf, celery seed) so that may be causing moderate lean gains as opposed to just sheer mass. i had overlooked this earlier. at least i understand now that test is test.
 
fwiw, i used letro for 2 weeks about half way through a cycle and gains totally stopped. dropped the letro and gains continued as normal. letro is strong stuff, 1mg may be too much for ya.
 
Test is not test.

400mgs of Test prop is NOT 400mgs of test.

Infact you would need approximately 480mgs of Test Prop to equal 400mgs of test
For cyp you would need even more.

This is why it suprises me when members tell other members how much test they should be taking, but then don't take into account what sort of test they are talking about. It can be any where from 16% to 25% LESS than what you think you are taking.




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Beelzebub said:
fwiw, i used letro for 2 weeks about half way through a cycle and gains totally stopped. dropped the letro and gains continued as normal. letro is strong stuff, 1mg may be too much for ya.
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i am going to continue the cycle minus the letro and proceed from there. i have a good feeling that is the problem for mass-i am still making some nice lean gains though.
 
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