ABE/Erase Rebound issues? Tapper down?

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A little background first :)

I'm into my 11 week of cutting and dropped from 12.5% BF to now around 7% BF, dropped about 0.5 kg (1.1 pound) a week.
My goal is about 5-6 % BF and I needed a little extra edge to push through that barrier.

So I started a ABE (old) and OG erase.
1 Week in a my arms and shoulders are more vascular and I got a bit more defection/dryer/vascular around my lower abs/chest. Curious to see what the second week has to add.
2 Week---> I will add some alphamine to boost my fat burning and hunger control from the ABE (insane, have been eyeing food like a predator).
I will also ad some creatine for muscle fullness.

So far so good.
My cut should be finished in about 3-4 weeks and then I will continue whit the ABE (new)/erase/alphamine/creatine into week 8 for some dry lean gains during summer.

Now to my questions:

- Do I need to tapper of erase/ABE to avoid estrogen rebound if any?
(Maybe I should have run ABE solo the first 2 weeks then added the erase/Alphamine but done is done)

- Alphamine and creatine stacks well together?

- Will creatine cause bloat while on cut or will it just add fullness?

- Any risk from gyno related sides with this combo? (ABE/OG Erase/Alphamine)
 

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No risk for rebound with any of the products.

Alphamine works great with creatine. Creatine adds fullness if used at 3-5g, not bloat.

No gyno risk I'm aware of.

Glad to hear your feedback!
 
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the new anabeta elite is insane if you want to stuff you face lol. honestly will make you eat and feel like your starving/think your stomach is a black hole. i added a couple caps of the normal anabeta, to the 4 caps of elite, alphamine won't control hunger while on it lol.unless your prone to gyno, that is not an issue with those. the forskolin used in anabeta elite is a 95% extract unlike other low % extracts.
 
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No risk for rebound with any of the products. Alphamine works great with creatine. Creatine adds fullness if used at 3-5g, not bloat. No gyno risk I'm aware of. Glad to hear your feedback!
What about new erase? Is tapering recommended?
 
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the new anabeta elite is insane if you want to stuff you face lol. honestly will make you eat and feel like your starving/think your stomach is a black hole. i added a couple caps of the normal anabeta, to the 4 caps of elite, alphamine won't control hunger while on it lol.unless your prone to gyno, that is not an issue with those. the forskolin used in anabeta elite is a 95% extract unlike other low % extracts.
I tried using AnaBeta whilst dieting to see if it would help retain muscle fullness.

I didn't even last a week before I stopped taking it due to the increase in my appetite. I stopped and kept it for bulking season lol. :D
 
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I tried using AnaBeta whilst dieting to see if it would help retain muscle fullness.

I didn't even last a week before I stopped taking it due to the increase in my appetite. I stopped and kept it for bulking season lol. :D
i added it during the end of my cut a few months ago, which after 19 weeks of dieting, it suddenly kicked in a few binges unfolded lol. i no longer know if i have an eating issue or its just the anabeta elite + og anabeta combo driving my appetite through the roof haha, had to start reverse dieting to so now i can keep running it, but even then 2 caps for now so i don't go over my macros, i was smashing like 6000 calories on some days now its like 4000-4500 if i ever do that 4 elite, 2 og anabeta caps. great if your a really skinny lifter or "ectomorph" who struggles to get food in. it stacking perfectly with MyoSyngery right now to.
 

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What about new erase? Is tapering recommended?
The evidence behind rebound is actually very poor/nonexistent even for clinical competitive AIs. So you will certainly never need to taper a non-competitive supplemental AI
 
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the new anabeta elite is insane if you want to stuff you face lol. honestly will make you eat and feel like your starving/think your stomach is a black hole. i added a couple caps of the normal anabeta, to the 4 caps of elite, alphamine won't control hunger while on it lol.unless your prone to gyno, that is not an issue with those. the forskolin used in anabeta elite is a 95% extract unlike other low % extracts.
I am maybe a little gyno prone, that's why I avoided to stack it with DAA.

Anyway not the right day to "feel" for it, been out in the sun all day and well my nipples got a little burned :-D
 
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I am maybe a little gyno prone, that's why I avoided to stack it with DAA.Anyway not the right day to "feel" for it, been out in the sun all day and well my nipples got a little burned :-D
DAA would be something to avoid then. also don't touch your nipples lol that makes it worse and increases prolactin, just don't use low % forksolin stick with anabeta elite or Analyzed F-95.
 
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Ahhh no touching :-( :)

On training days i take the ABE about 1 hour after my meal (lunch) then wait 30 min take my EAA then train. Is this ok?
Also is it ok to take the 2 tabs ABE with my proteindrink and carbs after training or should i take it with my big meal about 1h after training?
 
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Ahhh no touching :-( :) On training days i take the ABE about 1 hour after my meal (lunch) then wait 30 min take my EAA then train. Is this ok? Also is it ok to take the 2 tabs ABE with my proteindrink and carbs after training or should i take it with my big meal about 1h after training?
First part is fine. Second part, I would suggest to dose with your meal rather then your shake and carbs.
 
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i personally like tapering down. just my preference, i dont have any real science behind it. Just makes me fee as if im making a smooth transition off the product.
 

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