A RAD sponsored log feat. Olympus UK's Radar1ne
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nbshazeezee
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Can't wait to see how this treats you. So are you going just all out bulk for this bottle ?
Dma378
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For these 2 BOTTLES you mean??!!!!
Well I want to use this product for what it's supposed to be good for, and that's growth. But I'm not going to be 4500 every day. 3400 is my TDEE. And the 3 days at 3500, 1 at 4500 cycle isn't budging the scale. It seems my body is prime to add some calories for good gains. So starting today I adjusted my counter for a daily goal of 3900.
Today landed at 3884, 242 P, 134 F, 388 C
Well that's where it will be after my pre-bed bowl of Frosted Flakes made with some Fudge Brownie Whole Milk....
Think I'll stick to this Mon-Fri and try and hit a little over on weekends. As long as fat stays away, as it has, this should be good.
NewAgeMayan
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Maybe we're looking at this back to front. Instead of focusing on the anabolic aspect, maybe we should consider the ratio in its pharmaceutical context.
If test is said to be 1:1, and SARM-X is 90:1, perhaps it is misleading to infer that the latter is 90x more anabolic (I'll build 90x more muscle with SARM-X!!!). Rather, it may be more accurate to claim that SARM-X is 90x less androgenic than test. Or, it is 90x more 'androgenically selective'.
These interpretations of the ratios seem to avoid the counterintuitive scenario where they are compared based on anabolic potency. I dont know if this interpretation is correct, it is merely my conjecture.
mountainman33
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Fudge brownie whole milk?! What the?! Where do you find this magical elixir?
rascal14
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Or maybe 90:1 just means it is 90x more anabolic than it is androgenic, but has nothing to do with a comparison to any other compound..
Test may just be equally anabolic as it is androgenic. Or I am just retarded and do not understand anything at all.. Lol I haven't read too much of this part of the conversation to be honest so I could have completely missed something.
Test may just be equally anabolic as it is androgenic. Or I am just retarded and do not understand anything at all.. Lol I haven't read too much of this part of the conversation to be honest so I could have completely missed something.
warpyfunch
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No, I think you got it. The 90:1 seems to suggest only that it's 90x more anabolic than it is androgenic. It doesn't seem to imply how strong these effects are relative to any other substance. I've been reading as much as I could find and that's what I've come up with.
NewAgeMayan
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Yeah, that was my initial thought too.
Also, the ratios are based on the measurements of two biological sites, I think warpy mentioned this.
GaryG
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Oh no...was this the dreaded Roving Spotter??? I've had members of this species show up out of nowhere and ruin the last rep.
Only take a bar that has reversed direction and is headed back down!!!
Anyway, subbed and eager.
Misfit28
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So true. I now have a select few that I ask for a spot, lol.
Dma378
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It's just the Fudge Brownie protein with whole milk, then poured over cereal. I know, it was a bit misleading.
digitalpimp
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mountainman33
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Still sounds good though.
Dma378
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Delish!!
Dma378
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Totally. And that's why my spotter on squats is a set of bars!!
GaryG
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Exact-effing-ly...!
I'm sorry to harp on this, but it keeps happening to me and I've been dying to vent. I was working in my squats in a rack with a dude who kept edging closer behind me and "encouraging me" on doubles. I mis-timed a squat with a relatively easy weight because I saw him hovering behind me in the mirror. I let it go on the pins and told him with more than a little annoyance in my voice that having people too close makes me really nervous and prone to error. He said he just didn't want me to hurt myself! Ha! What he was really doing was over-compensating for the fact that we were the same size but my work sets were 100 lbs more. Eager Spotter, If I miss a rep, I will set it down on the pins. I will not get hurt. This isn't my first rodeo. But I'm glad to know this happens to jacked-looking lifters, too.
Anyway, just so it's not all about me complaining about Roving Squatters, I was hoping you'd mention any "neuroprotective" effects you may notice with the RAD.
Dma378
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Welcome all who subbed in over the night.
Woke up this morning looking fuller, feeling fuller and 2 pounds heavier.I knew it was going to be a drencher of a workout. A killer Pull Hypertrohy session had the pump and sweat rolling. This is why I love late night carbs. Pump so hard in the biceps that when I was jogging after weights, I had to let my arms hang to my sides and look like a special person.
Blew my nose this morning and it started to bleed. Couldn't find anything about RAD raising BP, so probably just blew too hard. And don't feel any of the other signs that usually tell me my BP is elevated.
Measured my arms for the first time ever last night, both exactly 17.5". I think I'll get some more measurements tonight to monitor any growth. Chest, lats, shoulder width, quads and calves.
A little jam from the session. Some Russian sickness. Not for everybody, but I will post much underground just in case it turns anybody on!!
[video=youtube;gbzc--cvlqA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbzc--cvlqA[/video]
Woke up this morning looking fuller, feeling fuller and 2 pounds heavier.I knew it was going to be a drencher of a workout. A killer Pull Hypertrohy session had the pump and sweat rolling. This is why I love late night carbs. Pump so hard in the biceps that when I was jogging after weights, I had to let my arms hang to my sides and look like a special person.
Blew my nose this morning and it started to bleed. Couldn't find anything about RAD raising BP, so probably just blew too hard. And don't feel any of the other signs that usually tell me my BP is elevated.
Measured my arms for the first time ever last night, both exactly 17.5". I think I'll get some more measurements tonight to monitor any growth. Chest, lats, shoulder width, quads and calves.
A little jam from the session. Some Russian sickness. Not for everybody, but I will post much underground just in case it turns anybody on!!
[video=youtube;gbzc--cvlqA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbzc--cvlqA[/video]
Dma378
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Exact-effing-ly...!
I'm sorry to harp on this, but it keeps happening to me and I've been dying to vent. I was working in my squats in a rack with a dude who kept edging closer behind me and "encouraging me" on doubles. I mis-timed a squat with a relatively easy weight because I saw him hovering behind me in the mirror. I let it go on the pins and told him with more than a little annoyance in my voice that having people too close makes me really nervous and prone to error. He said he just didn't want me to hurt myself! Ha! What he was really doing was over-compensating for the fact that we were the same size but my work sets were 100 lbs more. Eager Spotter, If I miss a rep, I will set it down on the pins. I will not get hurt. This isn't my first rodeo. But I'm glad to know this happens to jacked-looking lifters, too.
Anyway, just so it's not all about me complaining about Roving Squatters, I was hoping you'd mention any "neuroprotective" effects you may notice with the RAD.
That's something that I keep forgetting RAD has an effect on. I will definitely try to note any "neuro" effects it has.
bighulksmash
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looking good so far , i agree you blew to hard . how is the pump on the RAD ?
Dma378
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I think it's just starting to take effect. Felt so tight this morning. But 10 x 10 Lat Pull Downs, and 10 x 10 BB Curls, followed by DB Upright Row/DB Reverse Fly/Concentration Curl Tri-Sets would have anybody pumped the F up!!
bighulksmash
Legend
you gotta love that tightness . warm showers helped when i had that issue it loosens up the muscle . and yeah that work out would
def clip me range of motion for a bit ...
Dma378
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And I can usually do 3-4 solid rounds of jump rope, but the pump had my arms so fatigued this morning I could barely muster 2 rounds.
Misfit28
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Awesome update! Hopefully no BP issues coming on. You check your BP very often?
Love that groovy breakdown part. I'm a sucker for a heavy downtuned groove.
MrKleen73
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I honestly think you guys are worrying too much. Even if it is 90x more anabolic than testosterone it is dose dependent, also the anabolic reactions are limited by things like myostatin and everything else. So initially something my display the 90:1 but once you get to a certain point in a cycle things just slow down. On top of this I keep trying to point out that 200mg of test a week is barely more anabolic than average. The dose for a cycle of this per week is 84mg. If you are seeing gains at 84mg a week then it is far stronger anabolic property-wise than testosterone.
This is where I claim possible hype because what you say very well could be true. It could very well be a 90:1 ratio of the characteristics. Yet speak to nothing regarding how powerful those effects are. Then posting them next to ratios of known steroids is leading a person to the perception this will be up to 4x stronger than the steroids mentioned.
It could be, but that would be the breakthrough of the millennium as far as PED's go.
This could be the case but if so can really be broken down to be hype since it produce no measurable information. However I found it interesting that the SARMS places are selling this putting the comparison down for Test to make it look as if it is the androgenic ratio. Then even showing comparisons of steroids being ratios that don't make any sense compared to how they are actually done via the anabolic : androgenic ratio.
Let's just call it a lot more anabolic than it is androgenic and not try to intermingle the 2 ideologies. It would be awesome for us to have a compound to compare it to but for now we don't. We will get a better idea when watching this run solo! Regardless of anything the statement that seems to be echoed at least in the Research site world is that it is more anabolic than test. So one can assume if that is believed to be true. Looking at the dosing schedule I will agree that this must be stronger mg per mg than test because it is being dosed very low mg. If people get good results on 84mg a week gaining a lb or more a week that is massive and definitely stronger than test. I think sometimes people see something being more anabolic than test and think Holy Crap!!!! However people seem to forget how safe testosterone is and that people run very high mg doses to get the big gains you see them achieve. Some other compounds are limited by how much and how long you can take them safely. Others are so cost prohibitive you don't ever see them run high enough. However there are tons of compounds way more anabolic than test. Name just about any methylated oral that has been on the market in the last 10 years and you have an example of something more anabolic, but also limited in the doses by safety measures.
Realistically 10lb gain is a pretty nice LBM gain from a 12-14 week cycle at 600mg I am not including kick starters or running orals with it. Just a straight Test E run. You can gain about 8-10 lbs LBM on an 8 week anavar only cycle at 50-75mg per day. If you can get 8-10 lbs in 8 weeks out of running this at 12-24mg per day you have something that is pretty damn amazing... Now when you consider the shorter periods of time and the lower doses compared to test, it is not unbelievable that it is stronger mg than mg than test but what the actual ratio is that is the concern.
warpyfunch
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This is actually not known 100% yet either. Of the very few logs out there, some are dosed low, and one is dosed as high as 30mg/day, and i don't think any solid conclusions have yet been drawn as to what the sweet spot really is. We should know soon!
But yea, I think after all this discussion it's exactly as you're saying here. That the 90:1 figure had a specific meaning in the original scientific study, but is now being used as pure hype and tells us very little about the actual effects that can be expected, and is borderline deceptive when it implies a valid comparison to AAS ratios.
MrKleen73
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Even 30 a day would still be low dose by testosterone standards. That is 210 a week, if seeing gains at that level then it is probably safe to say it is a stronger anabolic mg per mg. I imagine we will see mild but noticeable gains in the 12mg range. Now as far as how much DMA will gain who knows. We have to keep in mind his recent cycle history and effects that could have had on myostatin and what not. Be has already put on a good bit of muscle the last 3 to 4 months. If he does well so close after then that is really impressive or will be to me.
NewAgeMayan
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Indeed.
Sparta12
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Jebrook
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And the madman returns! How goes the cut?
mixedup
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Was cutting a little too fast have to up kcal a little
McCrew530
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You are going to sit back and take the knowledge and like it!
GNO
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I fully support PB on every, and I mean every, type of food.
I just grabbed a gingerbread P28 for $6 (CDN dollars too!) to use on burgers and fish:burger:
Dma378
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So here are some measurements. Have never done this before. Never really had to.. But MrKleen makes a great point (as always), that I have put on some considerable size in recent months. But during none of it did I eat how I plan to eat here. I bounced between 2800-3400 cals/day depending on what I was running. But Test was also at 500-600 for a while as well, and Tren.....mmmmm Tren....huh, oh, hey!!
Measurements:
Chest at top of nipple : 45.75"
Lats flexed at highest point under armpits : 49"
Shoulders relaxed around widest point : 51.5"
Biceps (both) : 17.5"
Right Quad : 24.75"
Left Quad : 25.125"
Right Calf : 18"
Left Calf : 18.125"
Measurements:
Chest at top of nipple : 45.75"
Lats flexed at highest point under armpits : 49"
Shoulders relaxed around widest point : 51.5"
Biceps (both) : 17.5"
Right Quad : 24.75"
Left Quad : 25.125"
Right Calf : 18"
Left Calf : 18.125"
mixedup
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No.no.I will not take in knowledge just my gram of tren every week. Oops did I say that aloud
NewAgeMayan
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Slayer and Sepultura were the masters at this.
grinnell27
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That sweet potato and PB looks crazy good!!!
I NEED to try this, I see it everywhere but am yet to give it a go
I NEED to try this, I see it everywhere but am yet to give it a go
Dma378
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So we have some movement on the scale for the second day in a row. Didn't even make 3600 cals yesterday, yet up another 2 pounds. That's 4 pounds in 2 days. Some serious glycogen retention. Don't feel water, and definitely not fat. And that was after a good deuce.
So sitting at 216. 8mg/day, 4 days in.
So sitting at 216. 8mg/day, 4 days in.
grinnell27
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Awesome progress man! This RAD really looks to be something special!
Dma378
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If you're taking a gram of Tren a week, your Tren is garbage. Period.
Dma378
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Aggression was sky high today. Kind of separated itself from the day before. Set a couple PR's:
Front Squats - 225 x 5, then 235 x 4 Most I ever had on Fronts before was 205.
SLDL - 325 x 4
Every set and rep was done with a deep breath, a scowl, and an UUUMMMPH. Even Calf Presses were done pissed off.
Could have done a little more on the Front Squats, but I was using the rack where the safety bars are really low and not adjustable. So didn't want to push it. Was happy with the PR's as they were.
Front Squats - 225 x 5, then 235 x 4 Most I ever had on Fronts before was 205.
SLDL - 325 x 4
Every set and rep was done with a deep breath, a scowl, and an UUUMMMPH. Even Calf Presses were done pissed off.
Could have done a little more on the Front Squats, but I was using the rack where the safety bars are really low and not adjustable. So didn't want to push it. Was happy with the PR's as they were.
mixedup
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Don't worry dma joking again lol it always comes across weird on trxt. We did have 3 guys and 1 lady turn ifbb pros in vegas last weekend so I'm confident in the gear. A gram is for the big boys heavy and superheavy I can tell you lot of them bump 1 gram or more weekly pre contest at that weight
bighulksmash
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A gram of tren sounds like id sweat my asd off from inside out ya?