Miss Q
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Sick avi Q! Not sure if I said that yet.
Gracias LTL!!! They seem to be growing like weeds lately!!!
Okay.....what does the transformer mean in your sig?
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Gracias LTL!!! They seem to be growing like weeds lately!!!
Okay.....what does the transformer mean in your sig?
LiveToLift
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Miss Q said:
It was a transformation contest a few members and myself ran a few months back. Fun stuff!
LiveToLift
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http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/200134-transformers-quest-prime.html
This one! It was epic! The run I took my avi pic in.
This one! It was epic! The run I took my avi pic in.
msrider
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Miss Q said:I don't want to have to either!!! :no:
I read a post about your wife losing 50 lbs after child birth and still wanting to get leaner. How much more weight does she want to lose?? I really think she would like the Hyper T2 for the fat burning effect which targets fat in the stomach region as well as lower back and the all so difficult so called love handle region. Another great thing about HyperT2? It's a non stimulant product so it can be used with other stimulants like Oxyeca Black (the best thermogenic ever!!) Here's a list of the ingredients for the Hyper-
3,5-Diiodo L-Thyronine
Capsicum annuum Extract
Rauwolfia vomitoria Extract
Raspberry Ketones Gotta love the ketones!!
Have her check it out!!
I will prolly get the Hyper T2 in a couple months along with something else to build muscle. She wants too loose about 40 more lbs and that will put her about 145. She's 5ft 10" and always been strong as an ox, she comes from a family of giants. Dad is 6 "5, mom 6"2, brother 6"6.
I will have to wait till she's done with her script from the dr. She loves fentermine but dr's won't prescribe longer than 3 months.
Her diet is realy good since I am on a kick about high protein chickens, turkey, fish, etc. And she kills cardio at the gym, I realy want her to get on here. I got mad at her for not taKing a before pick cause she is lloking awesome now. Thanks MissQ I will check into the lecheek products in near future, and keep viewing ur logs to get an idea what would b good thanks for ur help
DocBrown
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I downloaded it recently as an app on my phone and was disappointed...it only shows you the calories. So I keep it up at home on my laptop, and plan my meals accrodingly. The actual website tracks all your macros...just make sure you know they are correct too. SOmetimes you will find a food item to add and you view the macros that are incorrect but overall i find it to be very useful, for me
DocBrown
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Your a trip, gokix!!! Here's another one “My momma thinks she’s all that and a pack of crackers, but she’s not.”
9% is what my trainer came up w/using a 9/11 point fold test (if I remember correctly) but that was really low and was prob off since it's so hard for most girls to acheive that low of b/fat%. Not saying females can't acheive that, but my husband (who has been training for 20 yrs) estimated it more at 12-14% - my weight was around 141 lbs. I stayed that low for approx one month before slowly creeping back up to 170 lbs :O
I am slowly learning to NOT put so much emphasis on the scale. Like you said- no reason to do that when seeing results in the mirror and w/ b/fat% test results. I really hope I can get that done again this week. My guy had to cancel on me earlier in the week, and I am becoming impatient!!:zx11pissed:
WAIT.... not putting too much emphasis on this.....hee hee.....but I weighed myself yesterday and I finally dropped down 5 lbs!! Last week I was up to 153 lbs and yesterday the scale read 148 lbs. So who knows?!?
20 grams of protein PER DAY???
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That's truly insane and why I don't use those app thingy's....that and I don't own an iphone!! HA HA!! Glad you are enjoying. Appreciate your stopping by w/ crazy stories!!!
bf is definitely the way to go!
congrats on your 5 lb loss however!!! That is significant! I am sure you will keep us informed when the testing happens.
DocBrown
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I though it was just me
Im like wait! I just no, did I post in, oh boy
Wait! Now I am confused!!! There are 3 serisously hot, and muscular women on a couple of threads...how many dudes are on here??? How the hell does it get to be so confusing, and how can you confuse 3 ladies who are all different but all equally awesome? Really?!
X-D
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Miss Q
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Cool, I will check it out. Transformation thread's are always fun to see!!
Miss Q
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bf is definitely the way to go!
Yes ma'am it sure is!! Update - b/fat is scheduled for late this morning, but we shall see if it takes place. Will update later.
Thank you Mrs Matty!!!
Wonder if calling you Mrs Matty will help these guy's keep us straight.....except Marms he will still be confused Kiddn Marms.....or am I??
Wednesday* Day 37-
Decided to take it easy from the gym in the am but still dosed one Hyper T2 20 mins before eating breakfast.
Evening- Dosed on Hyper T2 and one scoop SpeedX3 before hitting back for about an hour. Followed that up w/ 50 mins cardio.
2 MASS HGH capd before bed
Thursday* Day 38-
Took my dad out for breakfast for his B-Day, so skipped my morning cardio session again. Dosed one Hyper 20 mins before eating. Ordered a 1/2 order of oatmeal w/ blueberries and I swear they gave like 2 cup full's!! Had to take half of it home. Ordered egg whites w/ mushrooms and could taste the butter they used to grill those shrooms up.....I haven't had butter for a long time and it was honestly too rich...wth??!??
Afternoon- Took one scoop SpeedX3 before my shoulder w/out which included step up's. W/out lasted about an hour and a half.
Pm- 2 MASS HGH caps before bed.
Will prob ramp the cardio back up today...
Miss Q
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The butter thing is why I hate eating out. Even if you tell them no salt no butter they always do it
You are so right! Just assumed they would be careful with it since I ordered egg whites and also asked if they put sugar or milk in their oatmeal. Guess I was wrong!! It wasn't saturated, but I could still taste it. Oh well....life goes on!
DocBrown
Member
I though it was just me
Im like wait! I just no, did I post in, oh boy
I know it is so hard to go out to eat, AND eat cleanly, even if we think we are making healthy choices YUCK! good business idea for someone ha ha!
DocBrown
Member
I though it was just me
Im like wait! I just no, did I post in, oh boy
I know it is so hard to go out to eat, AND eat cleanly, even if we think we are making healthy choices YUCK! good business idea for someone ha ha!
DocBrown
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I know what you mean! It sucks going out to eat because even if you think you are making a healthy choice, it never really is...you never know what they are throwing in the food. That would be a great business idea lol creating a clean eating restaurant!
DocBrown
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Yes ma'am it sure is!! Update - b/fat is scheduled for late this morning, but we shall see if it takes place. Will update later.
Thank you Mrs Matty!!!
Kiddn Marms.....or am I??
Wednesday* Day 37-
Decided to take it easy from the gym in the am but still dosed one Hyper T2 20 mins before eating breakfast.
Evening- Dosed on Hyper T2 and one scoop SpeedX3 before hitting back for about an hour. Followed that up w/ 50 mins cardio.
2 MASS HGH capd before bed
Thursday* Day 38-
Took my dad out for breakfast for his B-Day, so skipped my morning cardio session again. Dosed one Hyper 20 mins before eating. Ordered a 1/2 order of oatmeal w/ blueberries and I swear they gave like 2 cup full's!! Had to take half of it home. Ordered egg whites w/ mushrooms and could taste the butter they used to grill those shrooms up.....I haven't had butter for a long time and it was honestly too rich...wth??!??
Afternoon- Took one scoop SpeedX3 before my shoulder w/out which included step up's. W/out lasted about an hour and a half.
Pm- 2 MASS HGH caps before bed.
Will prob ramp the cardio back up today...
I guess we gotta keep it simple for some of these boys
I had joked around with Matty initially when i started my log that I should have chosen the name matty's girl instead LOLI am excited to read about your testing results!
OrganicShadow
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Marms said:The butter thing is why I hate eating out. Even if you tell them no salt no butter they always do it
And they question you like you're insane. really? Are you sure that's what you want? Yes, that's why I asked for it.
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Then you stomach gets all messd up if you have been eating clean and your all bloated and uncomfortable.
How was your food? Great but it was loaded with butter and salt!!!
Im so sorry about that SIR!
No problem i dont mind at all im not working for a tip !
OrganicShadow
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Yeah! I don't like eating off diet and its not because I'm orthorexic or anything I just hate how I feel physically
mattys4
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Marms said:Then you stomach gets all messd up if you have been eating clean and your all bloated and uncomfortable.
How was your food? Great but it was loaded with butter and salt!!!
Im so sorry about that SIR!
No problem i dont mind at all im not working for a tip !
Haha yup
Miss Q
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LOL!!! I think you should post that one more time!! You posted the samething around 3 times, silly doc!!:nana:
Have fun at the show today!!! I posted in your thread about my friend competing in WPD at that same show, hopefully Matty ( your secretary) will inform you to look for her on stage!!
Tell em Organic!!!:swordfight:
Then you stomach gets all messd up if you have been eating clean and your all bloated and uncomfortable.
How was your food? Great but it was loaded with butter and salt!!!
Im so sorry about that SIR!
No problem i dont mind at all im not working for a tip !
That's right....cheaper on your wallet but bad for da tummy!!
Miss Q
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I'm a few pages behind.
What's going on in here?
Absolutely nothing!!! Nothing but getting leaner!!! HA!!!
Body fat was taken yesterday and I'm sitting around 14%. It was last taken on Oct 3rd at 16-18%. All measurement's/numbers dropped, so I'm a happy camper!!!
Spaniard
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DocBrown said:I downloaded it recently as an app on my phone and was disappointed...it only shows you the calories. So I keep it up at home on my laptop, and plan my meals accrodingly. The actual website tracks all your macros...just make sure you know they are correct too. SOmetimes you will find a food item to add and you view the macros that are incorrect but overall i find it to be very useful, for me
Right?! Gokix said there's a way tho I'm going to check it out I'll update ya....
- Valdez
Miss Q
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Your right, but I ate oatmeal at breakfast and I don't love the idea of mixing fats and carbs!!!
Either all fat's and protein or carbs and lean protein!!!! Right??
OrganicShadow
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I don't do it for health reasons but 1-2 egg yolks in the morning with oatmeal is whatever.
OrganicShadow
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Valdez said:
Day to day for gains or cut no. At one time we thought you should never mix carbs and fats between meals either... Like cutting one and switching to the other after 2pm, also with the idea that you shouldn't have carbs at all after like 4. Then again, at one time we thought the earth was flat.
I avoid mixing the two in high amounts/frequency because of the hormonal cascade that arises between insulin and cholesterol synthesis and all those other wonderful happenings of heart disease.
-OS-Team App Nut.
Miss Q
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I still think the earth is flat
Right....I guess I meant mixing higher fatty foods w/ a lot of carbs and when I think of eating foods that might have a good bit of butter added in I would def try to be careful. VALDEZ- I obviously eat the 2 combined but try to be careful about it since I was a former fatty and as far as a report goes about it causing heart disease.....I had no idea about that??!!??
Guess it's all in what works best individually....and maybe it is a myth....who knows??!!??
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I was wondering the same
bean5er
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Miss Q said:
I'm sure there are studies supporting both but me mixing the two equals feeling like garbage unless I'm depleted and its a one time cheat meal if that's the case I still feel like crap but usually only for a short time.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216534-purus-slinshot-bean5er.html
AaronJP1
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Think I heard that too.
Fats & protein.
Carbs & protein.
Myself I'm just trying to low carb it, cause almost everything I touch has at least some carbs in it...
Just try to not go crazy w/processed carbs & eat a ton in 1 meal.
On one hand I do eat "Muscle Sandwiches" which are carbs, protein, & fat... 13g of protein, 16g of fat, & 25g of carbs... :/
Fats & protein.
Carbs & protein.
Myself I'm just trying to low carb it, cause almost everything I touch has at least some carbs in it...
Just try to not go crazy w/processed carbs & eat a ton in 1 meal.
On one hand I do eat "Muscle Sandwiches" which are carbs, protein, & fat... 13g of protein, 16g of fat, & 25g of carbs... :/
bean5er
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Agreed I think it's always individual I was just posting my experiences. Looking great in that new Avi keep kicking ass
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216534-purus-slinshot-bean5er.html
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bean5er
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Haha Aaron you are looking great in that new Avi as well bud lol.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216534-purus-slinshot-bean5er.html
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OrganicShadow
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Of course, what was mentioned is along the line of thinking I had upon my own research but this is what I've found in surmise:
Insulin is an anabolic hormone in that it upregulates the synthesis of cholesterol. Now that's not necessarily a bad thing, sex hormones are made from cholesterol and post workout AMPK is more active to shuttle movement of cholesterol to new hormones and cell tissue components (insulin shuts down phosphorylation for those enzymes but, IMO - thats the only negligible circumstance where it isn't significant compared to the concentration of active cAMP.) When there's a large amount of building blocks available then insulin will stimulate high production of serum cholesterol through diet. This is where the potential of dietary cholesterol can raise totals in the blood. You can eat as many egg yolks as you like it doesn't matter (unless you're sensitive to AA) but add a bagel and some chocolate milk and it's not so pretty. The bile duct and liver control how much cholesterol is produced based on need and keep the system in check but dietary habits that frequent carb/fat intake simultaneously can cause high blood cholesterol - not total intake. For example: bea5er's refeed is a once awhile happening so the liver can act accordingly to keep his cholesterol at a balance but that guy getting his daily for his burger and a coke, between impending insulin resistance and high frequency high GI/fat intake, is in for it.
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^Basics on cholesterol. God resource.
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^Here's a thorough study
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^Bashes saturated fat but quick and effective outline on insulin/cholesterol
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^When insulin sensitivity decreases
All in all most of the literature you'll find has to do with insulin resistance and hypercholesterolemia. My thought is the vast majority of us don't fit into this category although insulin sensitivity does dull with age naturally. All said and done my thought it that it's ok to do it - just not all the time or in super high volumes, and pick times of insulin sensitivity (after a period of fasting or exercise).
Insulin is an anabolic hormone in that it upregulates the synthesis of cholesterol. Now that's not necessarily a bad thing, sex hormones are made from cholesterol and post workout AMPK is more active to shuttle movement of cholesterol to new hormones and cell tissue components (insulin shuts down phosphorylation for those enzymes but, IMO - thats the only negligible circumstance where it isn't significant compared to the concentration of active cAMP.) When there's a large amount of building blocks available then insulin will stimulate high production of serum cholesterol through diet. This is where the potential of dietary cholesterol can raise totals in the blood. You can eat as many egg yolks as you like it doesn't matter (unless you're sensitive to AA) but add a bagel and some chocolate milk and it's not so pretty. The bile duct and liver control how much cholesterol is produced based on need and keep the system in check but dietary habits that frequent carb/fat intake simultaneously can cause high blood cholesterol - not total intake. For example: bea5er's refeed is a once awhile happening so the liver can act accordingly to keep his cholesterol at a balance but that guy getting his daily for his burger and a coke, between impending insulin resistance and high frequency high GI/fat intake, is in for it.
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^Basics on cholesterol. God resource.
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^Here's a thorough study
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^Bashes saturated fat but quick and effective outline on insulin/cholesterol
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^When insulin sensitivity decreases
All in all most of the literature you'll find has to do with insulin resistance and hypercholesterolemia. My thought is the vast majority of us don't fit into this category although insulin sensitivity does dull with age naturally. All said and done my thought it that it's ok to do it - just not all the time or in super high volumes, and pick times of insulin sensitivity (after a period of fasting or exercise).
Spaniard
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OrganicShadow said:
I'm not even going to pretend WTF that first report said holy ****. You definitely have the upper hand in understanding that one. Differences in career education for sure : )
However, (unless i missed something) my interpretation of the following 2 is somewhat different than yours. The second study listed "refined carbs" as the carb source and yes, refined carbs 90% of the time = bad. I am a huge advocate of avoiding simple carbs for sure.
The last study didn't specify carb source so I don't really know what to make of it, but its definitely interesting to see the correlation of cholesterol and insulin sensitivity.
As always, good read OS and thank you for throwing up the info. I think we can agree on when and when not to use carbs but in my opinion the no carbs and fats together mind set is totally over played.
- Valdez
OrganicShadow
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The hard part is most of these studies are tailored to simulate circumstances with diabetes mellitus or metabolic syndrome because that's how they get their grant money to conduct this study otherwise it has little clinical relevance to prevalent epidemic conditions hence the use of refined sugars or testing DM patients. It's hard to find studies on stuff like this using healthy individuals. So take it for what it's worth - like I said, moderation.
The first image of the Kreb's cycle is a familiar cartoon but the other two I had to sit with for a bit and digest. The whole HMG-CoA thing is something knew I'm a geek and learning about in my free time.
The first image of the Kreb's cycle is a familiar cartoon but the other two I had to sit with for a bit and digest. The whole HMG-CoA thing is something knew I'm a geek and learning about in my free time.
DJBeanPole
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I must be heading down heart disease city because I eat everything all the time and I don't time ****.
Spaniard
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OrganicShadow said:
Not to mention the variables in human test subjects. Don't take what I said as me dismissing bud, you know me I'm just strong in my opinions as are you. If you come up on any new studies like that let me know I'll do the same, I'm always game for some debate : )
Cholesterol is a tricky thing too, the studies are constantly coming up with new info. I've read a few research articles that say at this time the mechanism of either cholesterol - HDL or LDL are still not entirely understood and that there may not be a "bad" one...
- Valdez
DJBeanPole
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So you guys are recommending to split the macros and eat them how? Because after reading all this I am seriously reconsidering my meal plans lol...
OrganicShadow
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No doubt. I didn't think it that way, it was good critiquing and the debates are how we learn. It is tricky because fact of the matter is we really still don't know! It's only been a few decades that we started interpreting lipid panels let alone fully understand the MOA of HDL/LDL/VLDL. And how often have you heard the term chylomicrons? WTF do they do?
I'm proposing that frequent carb/fat meals aren't a good long term health move. I wouldn't freak out over it.
-OS-Team App Nut
DJBeanPole
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Right on. Only bulking for two more months anyway so I won't be eating like this forever!
Spaniard
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DJBeanPole said:
I may be wrong but I think OS was speaking from a health standpoint. I highly doubt composition would be affected much by carbs and fats at the same time, I think that's more of an old spool bodybuilder trick. And like he pointed out those studies were in unhealthy people. We hit the gym and try to stay in relatively good health so those results may or may not be a concern for us.
- Valdez
Miss Q
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Why, yes it is!!
I feel the same if mixing a lot of fats and carbs. Guess it just depends on the meal, for example- eating pizza alway's makes me feel like crap and coma like the next day, so it's best that I avoid it.
Please share the ingrediants of your "Muscle Sandwich" ;0