7-keto and TRT
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AnabolicHolic
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I used 7 spray numerous times while on trt and the only thing i noticed was increased fat loss and hardening...nothing negative.
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Thank you for chiming in with some helpfull info.
I obviously cannot give medical advice on what you can or cant combine but if it were me id see no issues with it.
AnabolicHolic
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I think the TD 7-keto is exponentially better than erase or oral 7-keto. i use TD with just about everything now...dhea t-rez 7-keto mast test etc. And Yeah it gets to be a bit much at times if you are on so many topicals at once.
Beau
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AnabolicHolic
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Might I suggest clicking your heels together several times, and saying "theres no product like bulk 7-keto"....should work, and you will magically find yourself in a warehouse full of bulk tubs of 7-keto, perhaps even some 11-keto as well? If it works, send me a tub of each, please and thank you.
Beau
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Earlier today I did find 7-Keto powder online.
AnabolicHolic
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Glad my method worked for you. That idea has been around forever, worked for Dorothy.
Beau
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I am wearing red shoes, too.
AnabolicHolic
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You gonna make a transdermal? I'm no chemist myself, I'd just rub the powder on myself and then rub on pholjel and that would comprise my TD 7-keto
Beau
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You gonna make a transdermal? I'm no chemist myself, I'd just rub the powder on myself and then rub on pholjel and that would comprise my TD 7-keto
Yes, I home brew my own TD whenever I can.
Right now: DHEA, 4-AD.
AnabolicHolic
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I'd like to commission a few TD's from you. legal stuff of course. except for the masteron and testosterone and arimidex and dbol. No j/k, legal only.
Beau
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I would be happy to walk you through the process.
It is slam dunk easy, and very inexpensive.
I think you are familiar with Phlogel, and that can be used as a (very effective) carrier, although there are less expensive alternatives.
AnabolicHolic
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Yeah, the "PLO jel" site sells the compounding kit, with aqueous and organic phases, and directions on how to add the powder, or whatever that you are compounding....its WAY cheaper than the already mixed Phlojel (maybe a third or fourth of the cost? I did the math 6 months ago and forgot the exact #), but I assume if you don't mind the cost you can just add to the already made Phlojel just as well, not sure though on the "rules and regulations" of proper compounding there
Beau
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Yeah, the "PLO jel" site sells the compounding kit, with aqueous and organic phases, and directions on how to add the powder, or whatever that you are compounding....its WAY cheaper than the already mixed Phlojel (maybe a third or fourth of the cost? I did the math 6 months ago and forgot the exact #), but I assume if you don't mind the cost you can just add to the already made Phlojel just as well, not sure though on the "rules and regulations" of proper compounding there
Yes, there is a process recommended for Phlojel, and I have used a medical syringe in the past, to help control dosage. I have it the recommended process somewhere and will see if I can find the link. SP also sells am effective carrier that is DIRT cheap.
Beau
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AnaboliicH - I just sent you a PM with the Phlojel compounding instructions.
They work very well.
Good luck.
Wear red shoes when you compound.
Beau
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BTW - for cheap and readily available powders, like DHEA, I use SP's carrier matrix, and then overlay it with Phliojel, ala' the Androgel use.
Even then, red shoes are a must.
AnabolicHolic
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Do they sell red compounding shoes at NP? Or do I have to go to the mall?
Beau
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Step 1 - Go to the bowling ally.
Step 2 - Trade in old shoes for lovely bowling rental shoes.
Step 3 - Take lovely bowling rental shoes home.
Step 4 - Pimp up lovely bowling rental shoes with red shoes polish.
Step 5 - Admire new red shoes.
Step 6 - Compound
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Beau
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I have been told that topical/tradsdermal 7-Keto dosage should be the same as regular DHEA dosage.
So, starting doses would be 25 mg to 50 mg.
I would look to the commercial products to confirm that.
Here is a study that refers to 25 mg.
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On the higher side, a thread from the early 2000s included the following:
Q: What are the dosages for transdermally administered hormones?
First off, it should be noted that the listed dosage and duration on product labels is often conservative. Also, dosage will vary on stacking, level of experience, and many other factors. Here are some general guidelines
1-testosterone: 200-500 mg
19-norandrostenediol: 400-800 mg
4-androstenediol: 400-600 mg
3-alpha androstenediol: 50-150 mg
3-beta androstenediol: 200-500 mg
4-hydroxyandrostenedione (formestane): 50-200 mg
androstenetrione (6-OXO): 150-500 mg
7-OXO-DHEA (7-Keto): 100 mg
So, starting doses would be 25 mg to 50 mg.
I would look to the commercial products to confirm that.
Here is a study that refers to 25 mg.
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On the higher side, a thread from the early 2000s included the following:
Q: What are the dosages for transdermally administered hormones?
First off, it should be noted that the listed dosage and duration on product labels is often conservative. Also, dosage will vary on stacking, level of experience, and many other factors. Here are some general guidelines
1-testosterone: 200-500 mg
19-norandrostenediol: 400-800 mg
4-androstenediol: 400-600 mg
3-alpha androstenediol: 50-150 mg
3-beta androstenediol: 200-500 mg
4-hydroxyandrostenedione (formestane): 50-200 mg
androstenetrione (6-OXO): 150-500 mg
7-OXO-DHEA (7-Keto): 100 mg
stankyleg
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Thanks a ton bro.
Beau
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NP - I found an online site that carries 7-Keto powder, so I will probably give it a go.