51 day Var and Tor cycle.

Sweet. You gonna get blood work done?
 
Weekly update. Went up to 70mg on Wednesday and quickly discovered 70 is not for me lol I got shin pumps from a light job and my quads and glutes were sore for the rest of the day. Got back pumps from walking. Dropped back down to 50 today, because I had no sides there and hadn't felt diminished returns. Whether or not I will now because I've been above 50 for a while, we'll see. Finished my first bottle of tore, and I can say it is not.labeled correctly. The way I was taking it should've lasted 60 days, only lasted 39. If you want the brand of the tore I'm taking PM me. I honestly don't mind because it's working like a charm, but I'm just glad I bought two bottles.
 
K3flex said:
Weekly update. Went up to 70mg on Wednesday and quickly discovered 70 is not for me lol I got shin pumps from a light job and my quads and glutes were sore for the rest of the day. Got back pumps from walking. Dropped back down to 50 today, because I had no sides there and hadn't felt diminished returns. Whether or not I will now because I've been above 50 for a while, we'll see. Finished my first bottle of tore, and I can say it is not.labeled correctly. The way I was taking it should've lasted 60 days, only lasted 39. If you want the brand of the tore I'm taking PM me. I honestly don't mind because it's working like a charm, but I'm just glad I bought two bottles.
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IME, var produced virtually crippling pumps in my forearms, when I got overzealous with dosages.

I remember being at work, shoveling/spreading stone for a walkway and the pain in my forearms was unreal.

I think I was pushing upwards of 80mg var with 500mg test e back than; sweet spot of var IME is indeed a max of 50mg ED.

I will say that running var without test, for almost 2 months, is going to hurt your cycle recovery.

Tor or not, I'd say cut the var out now; 30 day cycles of orals is more than adequate.
 
I also tried 75mg with 500 test. 75 was to much. Couldn't runn, got cramps, big night sweats... 50 is also the sweet spot for me.

Re 30 days: imo that's not enough. Var is light and slow, also not much stress on liver. So 8 weeks is imo a nice time frame for var.

I still get frustrated when people take sarms like ostarine for example for 12 weeks. And that stuff is 100x more hepatotoxic then var...
 
Jinsun said:
I also tried 75mg with 500 test. 75 was to much. Couldn't runn, got cramps, big night sweats... 50 is also the sweet spot for me.

Re 30 days: imo that's not enough. Var is light and slow, also not much stress on liver. So 8 weeks is imo a nice time frame for var.

I still get frustrated when people take sarms like ostarine for example for 12 weeks. And that stuff is 100x more hepatotoxic then var...
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Yeah, I took 50 mg today and I feel fantastic. Even 60mgs was getting rough.
 
BBiceps said:
Since I’m 10-15 kilos heavier and semi ripped (12%bf) I might need a bigger dose, or what you think?
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Huh you can always start with a lower dose ie. 50 and get used to that in a weeks time and then up the dose to 75 and stay at it for a week or more if it's ok.

One thing is wheight but a completely different thing is pharmacokinetics. You might metabolise var more or less effectively then me and it also might have a different effect all together so no way to know.

I notice the effects of var quite quickly, so it's easy to addjust the dose.
 
Jinsun said:
Huh you can always start with a lower dose ie. 50 and get used to that in a weeks time and then up the dose to 75 and stay at it for a week or more if it's ok.

One thing is wheight but a completely different thing is pharmacokinetics. You might metabolise var more or less effectively then me and it also might have a different effect all together so no way to know.

I notice the effects of var quite quickly, so it's easy to addjust the dose.
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Yeah I actually can't feel the effects of var within the first 2 days of taking it. The first day I took 70 I felt terrible
 
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