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5 Weeks On And Have Dead D**k

JoeBrooklyn

JoeBrooklyn

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Ok, I have been on 300mg of Deca twice per week and 600mg of Sustanon twice per week. I have also been using Prolactrone, Unleashed, Nolva and Testosterone Conversion Factor. Up until last night my libido and erections have been through the roof, masturbating or having sex 3-7 times per day.
Yesterday, I masturbated twice and went to see a girl and I counldn't get an erection and when I did it didnt hold. What do I do?
 
Ditch the TCF-1 as it's useless while on cycle. If this has only happened once, I wouldn't worry about it at all.
 
It's either your estrogen or your prolactin levels... I say prolactin fron the deca.

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I doubt it, this girl could not have been created better. She was jet black, juicy vagina with a big clit. If anything I should've busted a nut too fast.
 
The only real thing tht can cure it is Viagra or cialis because those drugs dilate the vessels in ur **** which deca or tren constricts
 
I remember reading a while back that you shouldn't stack Nolva with deca on cycle. Can't remember the reasoning but I'll also suggest using an AI like aromasin or adex to control estrogen instead of a serm like Nolva.
 
Borispili said:
The only real thing tht can cure it is Viagra or cialis because those drugs dilate the vessels in ur **** which deca or tren constricts
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So freaking wrong. 19-nors do not lead to vasoconstriction of the penis. There isn't much to work as dosages for ancillaries have not mentioned. I would guess that it is likely from a flux in prolactin, but, without bloods, it's a total guess. One thing I would have recommended from the beginning is using an AI instead of a SERM and using either cypionate or enanthate instead of Sustanon.
 
Rodja said:
So freaking wrong. 19-nors do not lead to vasoconstriction of the penis. There isn't much to work as dosages for ancillaries have not mentioned. I would guess that it is likely from a flux in prolactin, but, without bloods, it's a total guess. One thing I would have recommended from the beginning is using an AI instead of a SERM and using either cypionate or enanthate instead of Sustanon.
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I agree, I think it's more a Prolactin problem but if it is, I'm disappointed in Prolatrone because when I was off cycle and just getting back on, I was using it and it lowered by prolactin so much that I was actually cumming too fast and I havent done that in 10 years! (I'm 43, I havent had that problem for 10 years). I thought Novla was an AI. But I will try to get adex. I just added Proviron Thursday night, I hope that works. Also, for the purposes of symplicity I didnt mention that I actually have been rotating between cyp, prop, enan and sust; but mostly Sustanon because I heard it works faster.
 
Rodja said:
So freaking wrong. 19-nors do not lead to vasoconstriction of the penis. There isn't much to work as dosages for ancillaries have not mentioned. I would guess that it is likely from a flux in prolactin, but, without bloods, it's a total guess. One thing I would have recommended from the beginning is using an AI instead of a SERM and using either cypionate or enanthate instead of Sustanon.
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I agree, I think it's more a Prolactin problem but if it is, I'm disappointed in Prolatrone because when I was off cycle and just getting back on, I was using it and it lowered by prolactin so much that I was actually cumming too fast and I havent done that in 10 years! (I'm 43, I havent had that problem for 10 years). I thought Novla was an AI. But I will try to get adex. I just added Proviron Thursday night, I hope that works. Also, for the purposes of symplicity I didnt mention that I actually have been rotating between cyp, prop, enan and sust; but mostly Sustanon because I heard it works faster. I have also gone back on Cabergoline as of today.
 
JoeBrooklyn said:
I agree, I think it's more a Prolactin problem but if it is, I'm disappointed in Prolatrone because when I was off cycle and just getting back on, I was using it and it lowered by prolactin so much that I was actually cumming too fast and I havent done that in 10 years! (I'm 43, I havent had that problem for 10 years). I thought Novla was an AI. But I will try to get adex. I just added Proviron Thursday night, I hope that works. Also, for the purposes of symplicity I didnt mention that I actually have been rotating between cyp, prop, enan and sust; but mostly Sustanon because I heard it works faster.
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You did a very poor job of constructing a cycle and doing your research. You're haphazardly throwing together different esters and wondering why your hormones are imbalanced.
 
Rodja said:
You did a very poor job of constructing a cycle and doing your research. You're haphazardly throwing together different esters and wondering why your hormones are imbalanced.
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It was a very simple cycle, 2cc of Test and 1cc of Deca, with Novla as the inhibitor and Unleashed to keep my Free Test high. I was also using Prolatrone to keep my prolactin down as I knew Deca messed with that. What did I do wrong?
 
JoeBrooklyn said:
It was a very simple cycle, 2cc of Test and 1cc of Deca, with Novla as the inhibitor and Unleashed to keep my Free Test high. I was also using Prolatrone to keep my prolactin down as I knew Deca messed with that. What did I do wrong?
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First, nolva isn't an AI; it's a SERM and, no, they're not the same. Second, you're erroneously mixing esters when they have different T 1/2 and your post says you're taking 600mg Deca, not 300mg. Third, if you're using prop in there instead of a long ester, not only is it a much shorter T 1/2, but the dosage of testosterone is much smaller.
 
Rodja said:
First, nolva isn't an AI; it's a SERM and, no, they're not the same. Second, you're erroneously mixing esters when they have different T 1/2 and your post says you're taking 600mg Deca, not 300mg. Third, if you're using prop in there instead of a long ester, not only is it a much shorter T 1/2, but the dosage of testosterone is much smaller.
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Ok; but I thought Novla still restricted estrogen build up, am I wrong? As for mixing esters, I'm doing that so my body doesnt get used to them, is that a wrong strategy as well? I am taking 300mg of Deca, twice per week so thats 600mg per week. So are you saying I shouldnt use Prop?
 
JoeBrooklyn said:
Ok; but I thought Novla still restricted estrogen build up, am I wrong? As for mixing esters, I'm doing that so my body doesnt get used to them, is that a wrong strategy as well? I am taking 300mg of Deca, twice per week so thats 600mg per week. So are you saying I shouldnt use Prop?
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Yes, you're wrong about Nolva as it does not stop aromatization. It merely blocks the binding at certain receptors.

Your body will "get used" to an ester as the ester has zero effect on the parent hormone nor will our body get used to testosterone. If you're going to use prop with deca, you'll need far more than 2cc/week. You'll more likely need 75-100mg/ED.
 
Lol...1200mg test with no aromatase inhibitor and your taking prolactrone. So......you guys really think its prolactin......
Firstly...you know for a fact prolactrone lowers prolactin. Its not your first time using it and 300mg is a low dose of deca.
Secondly your running a high dose of test with no ai.
Nolvadex IS AN ESTROGEN technically. It doesnt lower estrogen directly it prevents it from binding to receptors. Great if you have gyno. Worthless as an ai.

so. Instead of going crazy start an ai. 25mg aromasin ed or 3 pumps formeron till things get better then half the dose.

Also....stop jerkin it 20 times a day. You jerk off all day then complain you cant get it up later. Keep your hands off the package and things will normalize.

So....get on an ai
Get the hands off your pecker.


Problem solved.
 
This is a mess.
 
Its really not even an issue and things will get better in a week with the right course of action.

Get on the ai
No pullin the pecker
 
Rodja said:
Yes, you're wrong about Nolva as it does not stop aromatization. It merely blocks the binding at certain receptors.

Your body will "get used" to an ester as the ester has zero effect on the parent hormone nor will our body get used to testosterone. If you're going to use prop with deca, you'll need far more than 2cc/week. You'll more likely need 75-100mg/ED.
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Ok, so I will have to get some arimidex.
 
brundel said:
Lol...1200mg test with no aromatase inhibitor and your taking prolactrone. So......you guys really think its prolactin......
Firstly...you know for a fact prolactrone lowers prolactin. Its not your first time using it and 300mg is a low dose of deca.
Secondly your running a high dose of test with no ai.
Nolvadex IS AN ESTROGEN technically. It doesnt lower estrogen directly it prevents it from binding to receptors. Great if you have gyno. Worthless as an ai.

so. Instead of going crazy start an ai. 25mg aromasin ed or 3 pumps formeron till things get better then half the dose.

Also....stop jerkin it 20 times a day. You jerk off all day then complain you cant get it up later. Keep your hands off the package and things will normalize.

So....get on an ai
Get the hands off your pecker.


Problem solved.
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Thank you dude. Now I just have to find an adex supplier.
 
brundel said:
Its really not even an issue and things will get better in a week with the right course of action.

Get on the ai
No pullin the pecker
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I will try laying off the pecker but even in bad times I jerk twice a day. The only times I miss a day or two is if I have the flu or if I'm on PCT coming off a cycle and my libido is super low. Also, it helps me sleep.
 
Rodja said:
Any AI will suffice and quit mixing esters thinking that your body will get used to a particular steroid. In the future, you need to construct your cycles and do more research.

I just texted my supplier he said he can have it by next weekend. In the meantime any OTC AIs that are good? Isnt Proviron and AI? Where can I do research on cycles? My research is mostly these boards and trial and error.
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Rodja said:
Any AI will suffice and quit mixing esters thinking that your body will get used to a particular steroid. In the future, you need to construct your cycles and do more research.I just texted my supplier he said he can have it by next weekend. In the meantime any OTC AIs that are good? Isnt Proviron and AI? Where can I do research on cycles? My research is mostly these boards and trial and error.
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Proviron is not an AI. It's oral DHT that can have some estrogen modulation, but a solid AI will be Erase. The AI affinity of the active within Erase is similar to Exemestane. Reference:Numazawa M, Mutsumi A, Tachibana M, Hoshi K; Synthesis of androst-5-en-7-ones and androsta-3,5-dien-7-ones and their related 7-deoxy analogs as conformational and catalytic probes for the active site of aromatase; J Med Chem. 1994 Jul 8;37(14):2198-2
 
JoeBrooklyn said:
Any AI will suffice and quit mixing esters thinking that your body will get used to a particular steroid. In the future, you need to construct your cycles and do more research.

I just texted my supplier he said he can have it by next weekend. In the meantime any OTC AIs that are good? Isnt Proviron and AI? Where can I do research on cycles? My research is mostly these boards and trial and error.
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Not 100% if this would be beneficial but I'd suggest checking local supp stores even a *** would carry it, PES Erase just to tide you over. Normal dosage is 75mg a day, so I'd say start with 50mg see how that helps bump to 75mg, then if needed bump to 100mg until you can get a-dex.

Curious for my own note, any reason a-dex and aromasin have been mostly mentioned and letro has been left out(aside from my mention of it)?
 
00S4Boy said:
JoeBrooklyn said:
Not 100% if this would be beneficial but I'd suggest checking local supp stores even a *** would carry it, PES Erase just to tide you over. Normal dosage is 75mg a day, so I'd say start with 50mg see how that helps bump to 75mg, then if needed bump to 100mg until you can get a-dex.

Curious for my own note, any reason a-dex and aromasin have been mostly mentioned and letro has been left out(aside from my mention of it)?
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Erase Pro is carried in many G N C locations.
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Otherwise ostagain has great aromasin.
Use aromasin or formeron
Both are suicidal ai.
Adex is not so there is potential for an estrogen rebound upon cessation of treatment.
 
brundel said:
Lol...1200mg test with no aromatase inhibitor and your taking prolactrone. So......you guys really think its prolactin......
Firstly...you know for a fact prolactrone lowers prolactin. Its not your first time using it and 300mg is a low dose of deca.
Secondly your running a high dose of test with no ai.
Nolvadex IS AN ESTROGEN technically. It doesnt lower estrogen directly it prevents it from binding to receptors. Great if you have gyno. Worthless as an ai.

so. Instead of going crazy start an ai. 25mg aromasin ed or 3 pumps formeron till things get better then half the dose.

Also....stop jerkin it 20 times a day. You jerk off all day then complain you cant get it up later. Keep your hands off the package and things will normalize.

So....get on an ai
Get the hands off your pecker.

Problem solved.
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Lol.... Last part was good! I didn't know he was on 1.2g of test. I missed that part

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This is a mess. Its like a newb built your cycle... except your logic is because you have cycles in the past you can run really high doses?

Your Dick won't work after beating it 3+ times a day?? Your 43?? I don't see a problem... just because you aren't as horny as a 21year old kid on 2g of test isn't reason to complain.

In previous posts/threads I explained prolactin and estrogen reactions to you. Obviously it didn't make an impact. Nolva while a 19-nor compound has active metabolites in your system? Be lucky you are only having the problems you are. And the fact you think nolva can control estrogen like an AI makes me realize what I said in the past didn't stick.

Yeah guys used Nolva like an AI back in the "day" but that is old style use and since then research and new medicine has been introduced into our sport.

Good luck to you

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Yah you def need to drop the Nolva. Id get the AI in your system quick though because likely the nolva is the only thing preventing gyno.
 
Ok guys I got it, I'm an accountant, not a doctor. For some reason I was under the impression that Novla was an AI. I was afraid to take a suicidal AI because I heard that too low estrogen is as bad as too high. Ok, lesson learned. I need an AI, preferably Adex; but in the meantime got Erase Pro and looking to get that forma something or other. I'm down to two Prolactrones so if I continue to take it I will be out by tomorrow. I have Caber and I took my first dose yesterday and I thought it was my imagination but I feel hornier already, jerked off three times today with pretty good erections; but after the other night's experience I'm scared now to go out again. But I believe it might be both an estro and prolactin problem because I have been feeling, let's say, sentimental the past two days and that only happens when I am on PCT and my test levels or estro levels are high.
 
When estro is high I start tearing up at sad parts of movies or TV shows. Pretty funny.
100% sure estro is high for you. 1200mg test and no AI = elevated estro. No question about it.

We will get you more Prolactrone and some Formeron. I dont think you need to worry about estro getting too low at this point.
Use the Caber and erase since you have em both currently.

No worries.
 
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