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4 week PH stacks?

Studdscruggs

Studdscruggs

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Im very against methyl PHs as I think the damage on the organs hinders gains by afar and very much harder to recover from.

I'm all for Sarms and non methyl PHs. How does 4 week cycles for PHs sound? Stacking 2+ at a time for four weeks to have the ability to recover much quicker and do more cycles during the year. (Note: I have only done 8 week cycles minimum)

I was thinking of doing 1 andro and Delta-2 for 4 weeks even though I have 8 weeks worth. What are y'all thoughts? Of course with proper pct nolva or torem for 4 weeks and cycle support.
 
Hi-tech 1-Testosterone (110mg/tab of 1-andro) + Superdrol is a really impressive 4 week stack. All non-methyls.
 
The only real difference in methyls is their ability to negatively affect the liver. Plenty of guys who run methyls actually have solid liver values post cycle and nearly always return to normal within a few weeks. It is my opinion that they're no worse than drinking 3-4 nights a week at most which plenty of college kids do. personally I wouldn't run the andros or sarms for less than 8 weeks. Regardless set yourself up with a solid pct, nolva/clomid, m test, reduce xt will get you back to where you want to be
 
The only orals worth running for 4 weeks are the harshest methyls (M1T, M1A, Superdrol, Msten, etc).

The most effective non-methyls would probably be dienedione (prohormone to dienolone) and trendione (prohormone to trenbolone). You should run these for 6 weeks though.
 
Shorter runs and more frequent cycles, is a recipe for disaster. You'll end up with less gains, less money, and a more taxed HPTA system.

Actually, more frequent cycles, no matter the length, is a terrible idea.
 
Studdscruggs said:
Thought of that a well!
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It just makes sense when you break it down.

Cycle(lowering testosterone) -> PCT(boosting testosterone) -> Time off(for your body to normalize)

Shorter cycles = less gains, and even less keep able gains

More frequent cycles = more frequent drops in your testosterone levels, and less time for your body to normalize.

Those ups and downs will leave you in a bad place at the end of it all, with little to show.

Stick to eight weeks on if it worked for you. I also suggest a PCT as long as your cycle length.
 
This is pretty good advice. Even on a lighter run of 1-andro and 4-andro, it is important to have all the OCT and PCT that your going to need.
 
Studdscruggs said:
Makes no sense? Please research how liver function associates with muscle growth and health.....
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Lol, so you're saying running a non methylated Andro product will produce more gains than Superdrol or Msten, because it won't strain the liver? You have no business running any type of cycle if that is what you think. I could run Msten and DMZ for 6 weeks and make far greater gains than any Andro product for the same amount of time if not longer. So yes, it makes zero sense.
 
rascal14 said:
Lol, so you're saying running a non methylated Andro product will produce more gains than Superdrol or Msten, because it won't strain the liver? You have no business running any type of cycle if that is what you think. I could run Msten and DMZ for 6 weeks and make far greater gains than any Andro product for the same amount of time if not longer. So yes, it makes zero sense.
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Superdrol? Gain 20 pounds with 15 being water? Yes, can easily be out done by a stack of 2 non methyl PHs and can definitely bring some more dry lean gains. Even epistane, the gains can be compared to two non methyls from what I've seen. So because I have a theory of hormones, you come out to say "you have no business running cycles if you think that way." There's always that one guy in the forums.....
 
Studdscruggs said:
Superdrol? Gain 20 pounds with 15 being water? Yes, can easily be out done by a stack of 2 non methyl PHs and can definitely bring some more dry lean gains. Even epistane, the gains can be compared to two non methyls from what I've seen. So because I have a theory of hormones, you come out to say "you have no business running cycles if you think that way." There's always that one guy in the forums.....
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Your "theory" is incorrect. You said the organ damage hinders gains which is 100% not true.
 
rascal14 said:
Your "theory" is incorrect. You said the organ damage hinders gains which is 100% not true.
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Ight Mr. PH guru. If you don't think organ damage affects muscle growth then keep pounding them methyls big man lmao. I think them methyls getting to your anger a little bit.
 
Studdscruggs said:
Ight Mr. PH guru. If you don't think organ damage affects muscle growth then keep pounding them methyls big man lmao. I think them methyls getting to your anger a little bit.
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At what point did anything I say indicate I was mad? I told you your theory doesn't make any sense in this context and it never will.
 
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