4 week anabeta/erase pro cycle expectations?

Day 28 (final day):

Today was probably the worst I've looked in a while. I was really hoping to give a final review, but I look too flat/small to say anything positive. Reason being is that I stopped taking creatine shortly after beginning this stack. I had been on creatine for over 2 years and I had no idea if it was even doing anything + I was carrying a bit of water, so I thought I'd stop for a while and see and what would happen. Well even though I had only been taking 1.5g for the past year it must have done a lot, because these past few days I've looked small as hell. And not any drier either.

I looked my best two weeks ago. The stack had me feeling incredibly full and quite hard then.
 
bobsaget5 said:
Day 28 (final day):

Today was probably the worst I've looked in a while. I was really hoping to give a final review, but I look too flat/small to say anything positive. Reason being is that I stopped taking creatine shortly after beginning this stack. I had been on creatine for over 2 years and I had no idea if it was even doing anything + I was carrying a bit of water, so I thought I'd stop for a while and see and what would happen. Well even though I had only been taking 1.5g for the past year it must have done a lot, because these past few days I've looked small as hell. And not any drier either.

I looked my best two weeks ago. The stack had me feeling incredibly full and quite hard then.
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Well at least you know creatine works lolll! And works for you.


Maybe you should stick to a CREATINE and BCAA\EAA-SAA stack.

That's usually what I do when I lay off of products like ABE&EPRO.
 
Johnold said:
What creatine do you use?
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ON creatine monohydrate. All the science says that creatine cannot cause bloating or anything like that, but I have a school ID card that was taken 2 weeks after starting the stuff, and goddam my face looked like a friggin balloon.

Oh and today I looked really good again lol. This stack definitely did something for me, and I'm sad that I just finished my last dosage. Is it true the effects will persist for another several weeks though?
 
bobsaget5 said:
ON creatine monohydrate. All the science says that creatine cannot cause bloating or anything like that, but I have a school ID card that was taken 2 weeks after starting the stuff, and goddam my face looked like a friggin balloon.

Oh and today I looked really good again lol. This stack definitely did something for me, and I'm sad that I just finished my last dosage. Is it true the effects will persist for another several weeks though?
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You gotta give green magnitude a try. MCC is the best.

I strongly believe with PES products to look your best you have to be cutting. They do very well for recomping.

Watch carb & sodium intake. You can look so shredded on ABE & EPRO you'll look not natty lol!
 
no joint pains
no drop in libido
no facial pimples
no bloating AT ALL

all the above valid for both ABE old/new and erase pro old/new

with erase pro new you can expect to see real effect ending of 4th week and starting 5th
with erase pro old even after 1/2 weeks :)

both great products!!!!!!!!!
 
Xrkc6x said:
no joint pains
no drop in libido
no facial pimples
no bloating AT ALL

all the above valid for both ABE old/new and erase pro old/new

with erase pro new you can expect to see real effect ending of 4th week and starting 5th
with erase pro old even after 1/2 weeks :)

both great products!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah the first time I took the new Erase Pro I started seeing the very beginning of results at the end of the first 4 week bottle. Never ran another 4 weeks to see full effects. I'll do so once I have the opportunity.

Just moved to a different state and the funds aren't there. No job yet.
 
Johnold said:
Yeah the first time I took the new Erase Pro I started seeing the very beginning of results at the end of the first 4 week bottle. Never ran another 4 weeks to see full effects. I'll do so once I have the opportunity.

Just moved to a different state and the funds aren't there. No job yet.
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good luck mate!!!
 
So despite my lackluster review, I'm considering beginning another 4 week cycle. I think one of the reasons why I wasn't incredibly impressed was because I was eating to match my increased appetite, and was expecting to shed more fat than I did. ABE + erase definitely did something for me. Even if it was just a 5% increase, I'd be willing to pay for that edge as I begin my cut. I want to look as fantastic as possible within the next month.
 
bobsaget5 said:
So despite my lackluster review, I'm considering beginning another 4 week cycle. I think one of the reasons why I wasn't incredibly impressed was because I was eating to match my increased appetite, and was expecting to shed more fat than I did. ABE + erase definitely did something for me. Even if it was just a 5% increase, I'd be willing to pay for that edge as I begin my cut. I want to look as fantastic as possible within the next month.
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good stuff mate, will you log the cycle?
 
I'll log yeah. Do you guys think I should add DAA to squeeze out some more gains? I'm just hesitant because I hear people get some wicked acne with that stuff. I like my clear skin
 
bobsaget5 said:
I'll log yeah. Do you guys think I should add DAA to squeeze out some more gains? I'm just hesitant because I hear people get some wicked acne with that stuff. I like my clear skin
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I guess it is just depending on every single person, I mean, everyone is different right? also if you have greasy skin that could and I say "could" be an issue but I don't think so, I am using it with ABE and a testo booster atm and no spot or acne on my face, also what is your age?
 
Xrkc6x said:
I guess it is just depending on every single person, I mean, everyone is different right? also if you have greasy skin that could and I say "could" be an issue but I don't think so, I am using it with ABE and a testo booster atm and no spot or acne on my face, also what is your age?
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You enjoying ABE&EPRO again?
 
Johnold said:
You enjoying ABE&EPRO again?
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Yes mate I put on 6kg since last summer I used those supplements with anavar and running magnitropin and myosynergy in my previous stack of which 3kg at least water or fat my fat ibcfeased from 5% to 9/10% so I'm using Abe and epro as well other pes supplements to cut, started last week in doing carb cycling 50 50 100 150 200 and again ;)
 
Re-ordered ABE and EP on Friday. Paid 15 dollars extra to have it saturday but it got delayed until Tuesday. I'm two weeks into my cut, and my last cycle with these two products ended 3 weeks ago. That combination has led to me looking very flat and feeling weak lately. Arms are no longer hugging the sleeves. I can't wait till this stuff gets here so I can have that edge again.
 
amazing products!
 
order arrived today. I cut open the box and slammed 1 EP tab and 2 ABE's as soon as I could lol.

Do you guys think this will help with my cut? I'm 3 weeks in. Haven't lost any fat really but I am looking incredibly flat. Scared to put on a t-shirt.
 
bobsaget5 said:
order arrived today. I cut open the box and slammed 1 EP tab and 2 ABE's as soon as I could lol.

Do you guys think this will help with my cut? I'm 3 weeks in. Haven't lost any fat really but I am looking incredibly flat. Scared to put on a t-shirt.
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if you could provide us with some more info like macros and supplementation and food timing and training... maybe I/could be of some help :)
 
bobsaget5 said:
order arrived today. I cut open the box and slammed 1 EP tab and 2 ABE's as soon as I could lol.

Do you guys think this will help with my cut? I'm 3 weeks in. Haven't lost any fat really but I am looking incredibly flat. Scared to put on a t-shirt.
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The combo certainly has the ability to aid in your cut if your diet is on point.

If you look incredibly flat, you may need a re-feed.
 
Johnold said:
Favorite word. "Refeed"
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yes my favorite too :P ahahahahah I am doing 50 50 100 150 200 carbs and today is the 200one ahahhaha but just brown basmati rice for me :) ahahah no sweets anymore, no cheating anymore :) just one every two weeks :)
 
Xrkc6x said:
yes my favorite too :P ahahahahah I am doing 50 50 100 150 200 carbs and today is the 200one ahahhaha but just brown basmati rice for me :) ahahah no sweets anymore, no cheating anymore :) just one every two weeks :)
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Very smart. And nothing wrong with over eating rice lol! Especially if it's Basmati or Jasmine rice! Quality rice grains! Especially if it's the REAL imported stuff.
 
In the uk we have Tilda brand which should be one of the best;)
Tomorrow 50g tho and I'll be sad ha! But at least this week its not gonna be the weekend 50 50 sat and sun looool

With this diet cycling carbs and taking my loved abe and epro I'm cutting perfectly :)
 
I'm on 2800 calories, 350g of carb. Seems high but I'm 6'4" 220 and I'm used to eating much more. Train 5 days a week. No other supps besides creatine
 
bobsaget5 said:
I'm on 2800 calories, 350g of carb. Seems high but I'm 6'4" 220 and I'm used to eating much more. Train 5 days a week. No other supps besides creatine
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At 350 grams of carbs, how are you extremely flat?
 
Yeah Tilda is top notch stuff!

Basmati is easy on carb saturation I believe. Can get away eating more of it.
 
Johnold said:
Yeah Tilda is top notch stuff!

Basmati is easy on carb saturation I believe. Can get away eating more of it.
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it has really low GI and GL so good :)

agree with kbayne, how could you be flat with 350g of carbs? are you talking about actual nutrients or food?
 
Some people cut or fill up on different grams of carbs. It's crazy.

Anything over 130 to 150 grams of carbs for me and its considered "bulking" carbs.
 
Damn, am I getting a estro rebound or what? I have pubescent gyno (20 y/o). Throughout the years I've noticed that it temporarily worsens depending on my diet and other things. But everything has been super strict lately. And for the past few days my nips have been sagging quite a bit. Need to get surgery
 
Estro rebound? Uhmmmm I guess just fat if you haven't been on cycle why should you have it? New epro doesn't do that
 
It just doesn't make any sense why they're looking puffier/fatter than usual when overall I'm losing bodyfat. And yeah, it's real gyno
 
bobsaget5 said:
It just doesn't make any sense why they're looking puffier/fatter than usual when overall I'm losing bodyfat. And yeah, it's real gyno
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ok, assuming it is real gyno, what are you taking at the moment? what you have been taking in the past months?
 
Johnold said:
Was asking the same question as you. So I agreed with you as to why the gyno.
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just cause sometime i miss something due to my bad english, remember im a Roman even if i left and living abroad :P

thanks for the explanation tho
 
Johnold said:
Oh for sure man.

So what's this news on the new SHIFT and new Alpha-T2?
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SHIFT there is a nice topic in the PES section, alpha t2, well, don't know much about it, i guess was supposed to be a new one innit? i bought myself 6 bottles of shift tho and i will test and log it :)
 
There's too many fat burning supplements on their line lolll! How is someone supposed to pick one?
 
Johnold said:
There's too many fat burning supplements on their line lolll! How is someone supposed to pick one?
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There are three:
Stimulant powder (Alphamine)
Stimulant capsules (Norcodrene)
Caffeine/yohimbine free (Shift)
 
bolt10 said:
There are three:
Stimulant powder (Alphamine)
Stimulant capsules (Norcodrene)
Caffeine/yohimbine free (Shift)
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and Alpha T2
 
erase pro is more like AI and the effects can be seen like "reduction in fat" but i guess more in water retention so basically that is not a fat burner :) but contribute to burn fat performing other actions like AI/cortisol support/water retention :)
 
Oh yeah! I'm sure it's awesome stuff at an 8 week usage.

PEScience has so many fat burners etc. I never thought anything would really come after just having Alphamine and Alpha-t2
 
Johnold said:
Oh yeah! I'm sure it's awesome stuff at an 8 week usage.

PEScience has so many fat burners etc. I never thought anything would really come after just having Alphamine and Alpha-t2
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I will tet shift on its own :) and see what are the effects ;)
 
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