Thanks, all. From everything I've read (which is everything I could find), people seem to use 4-DHEA to counteract the lethargy brought by on 1-DHEA. I've also read that it is *reasonably* safe if used as directed. Interesting, Raize, that you've found 4-DHEA as being not that much different from regular DHEA.
Do you all think that a cycle of 4-DHEA followed by pct would be safe (and, while we're at it, effective)... or are there sides (gyno, hair loss) that wouldn't be worth it?
Btw, the product in question contains 25mg of 4-DHEA and 500mg of massularia acuminata (x3/day). Company said the recommended cycle is 8 weeks on/4 weeks off and that there is no need to pct (!).
I am basically looking for something a little stronger than the natural test boosters I've used (Animal Test and Testopro) that is still reasonably safe.