4-dhea conversion rate

I really liked real 4AD and 1T and 1AD. To call these current 2 step DHEA products 4AD and 1AD is just a travesty. Was always suspicious of these expensive DHEA products. That's all they are, DHEA. I guess if you dress it up with a fancy label though and huge price tag people will get da gainz!. Wait....I forgot the super duper jet fuel "delivery system" that increases the effectiveness by a whopping 500%!!!!!!!!
 
Pp sent me a bottle of andromass and it was effective.
I wonder if I stacked those 2 isomers with other companies products if it'd be the same
 
There is a 4-andro TD product coming out soon, I wonder how it's dosed. Hope it's priced right, otherwise maybe it's worth considering pinning.
 
Old thread I know, but if you're like me and hover threads on these imaginative questions I'll spare your curiosity with some math and logic backed by broscience to give you guys a number to go off of.. Since no one is able to produce one it seems. So being that 4-DHEA can either convert to 4-androstenediol or it's estrogen converting counter part or just end up not being utilized by the body at all we'll go ahead and say that the conversion rate to 4-androstenediol is ~33%..Assuming you've got absorption peaked as well if not try some DHB or other absorption enhancers! Take some E Blockers to assist in prevention of E conversion.. Now according to 4-androstenediol Lore, conversion to Test is ~15%.. So we take say 2g/2000mg of 4-DHEA x 33% = 660mg of 4-androstenediol.. 660mg of 4-androstenediol x 15% = 99mg of Test.. ~100mg x 7 days = 700mg.. This is without calculating half lives and such, which is huge for these equations but like I said, this is just to give those with no idea where to start and require a digit of sorts to set up their cycle. If you want a range, chop that 700mg in half and now you've got somewhat of an idea how much Test you'll be taking 350mg - 700mg. I hope this helps
 
Here you are talking about conversion and assuming having 100% absorption which is not the case. None ester steroids have an absorption of 5-15% orally. So with the daily dose you are mentioning total test per week is not 700mg but 100mg at best if taken orally and no absorption enhancer. With enhancers I don't believe you can even double the absorption rate.
 
The conversion rates have to be variable based on the individual. What would be cool, would be a bunch of blood work done on guys just taking Xmg of 4-AD - you could at least ballpark it. But nobody is going to do just a 4-AD cycle... it's pretty much cast in stone that no gains will be had - it ain't Test Cyp. So, given that you aren't going Super-Physiological, does the conversion rate even matter if it *does* keep lethargy away though? That's why we use it - as a base. Also, broscience here (maybe) - Transdermal may be better? Remember something about the enzymes in the skin preferentially converting to Androgens vs Estrogens. That still doesn't solve the "Converts to nothing" portion though :D
 
I'm actually gonna be doing 2g of 4 DHEA with 1g of 1 DHEA a day for just under 8 weeks just because I haven't seen it done before xD. Gonna go the raw powder route cause it's a tad cheaper, and see about making it a liquid. Using logic I'm hoping to do both liquid and absorption ingredients taken with/immediately after, gonna be fun :D
 
Here's a conclusion: 1% convert to test. I ran sublingual 4ad and transdermal route both barely helped with lethargy from true shutdown. Save your money and just use plain old dermacrine. All these 4dhea products are so overpriced with very little results.

I have yet to see anyone run any blood work whilst using 4dhea when fully shutdown on a cycle with dmz for example.
 
Anybody posting up conversion rate % is simply guessing and it really means nothing. Pure and simple.
 
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