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2nd cycle PP with non meth tren or bold

Icemansoldier

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First cycle was Epi cycle, after pct kept 6 lbs, decent strength off it, few lbs lean mass.

2nd cycle PP with non meth tren or bold any thoughts on whats better to stack with PP?

Ive been reading tren is really good for strength but has bad sides, i had and have hairloss from epi btw, i read tren can = nose bleed, high BP and hard shutdown.

Is tren better for strength but bold would be more suited for abit of mass?

Any thoughts on any of the above would be helpful, thanks.
 
actually at your age I dont' think you need either. I'm not judging you but technically your test should be real high naturally so you could probablly get great results going non hormonal
 
mixedup said:
actually at your age I dont' think you need either. I'm not judging you but technically your test should be real high naturally so you could probablly get great results going non hormonal
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Yeah your right i admit i started too early but ive already ran a 7 week epi and wanna run something else in about 2 months time and PP is good mass/strength builder and can be ran for longer than SD.
 
Icemansoldier said:
Ive been reading tren is really good for strength but has bad sides, i had and have hairloss from epi btw, i read tren can = nose bleed, high BP and hard shutdown.
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all those symptoms from tren are sides of high blood pressure. even an inability to get it up is blood pressure related usually.

shedding on tren usually only happens in people predisposed to it, and it seems like you may be one of those.

EDIT : dammit, stop posting in an over 21 section people.
 
suncloud said:
all those symptoms from tren are sides of high blood pressure. even an inability to get it up is blood pressure related usually.

shedding on tren usually only happens in people predisposed to it, and it seems like you may be one of those.

EDIT : dammit, stop posting in an over 21 section people.
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Thanks bro, looks likely ill go with PP standalone.
 
Irish_Rogue said:
Hey mate, I ran PP & SD bridged for 6 weeks years back and it was grand indeed. Currently pulsing SD & PP with 1-T lotion, liking it thus far. Best wishes.
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Yeah i was thinking about that, that would add some serious strength and weight i would imagine. Did you run PP first then bring in SD?

3 possiblilties atm:

1 = PP alone

2 = PP/SD 3 weeks each or 4 week PP and 3 week SD

3 = PP/Epi
 
Icemansoldier said:
Yeah i was thinking about that, that would add some serious strength and weight i would imagine. Did you run PP first then bring in SD?

3 possiblilties atm:

1 = PP alone

2 = PP/SD 3 weeks each or 4 week PP and 3 week SD

3 = PP/Epi
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Aye, I ran PP solo for 3 weeks, bridged SD in the 3rd week then SD solo for the last 2 weeks. Brilliant gains in size and strength. I am liking the pulse since I only workout 3x per week.
 
Irish_Rogue said:
Aye, I ran PP solo for 3 weeks, bridged SD in the 3rd week then SD solo for the last 2 weeks. Brilliant gains in size and strength. I am liking the pulse since I only workout 3x per week.
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Cool mate, any reason you ran PP first, is PP wetter than SD for you?

I would run SD then PP i think, as i hear SD is wetter for most people. Can you remember how much strength/weight you put on, did PP and SD give you water retention?

Thanks mate.
 
Icemansoldier said:
Cool mate, any reason you ran PP first, is PP wetter than SD for you?

I would run SD then PP i think, as i hear SD is wetter for most people. Can you remember how much strength/weight you put on, did PP and SD give you water retention?

Thanks mate.
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I really thinned out on SD whilst gaining muscle mass. PP is a beast, just bloated me a bit and use the SD to dry it out prior to PCT. I gained about a stone on the cycle. I remember posting about it in 2006, I just can't be arsed to look it up. Strength was crazy mate, could not believe the power and energy I had.
 
Irish_Rogue said:
I really thinned out on SD whilst gaining muscle mass. PP is a beast, just bloated me a bit and use the SD to dry it out prior to PCT. I gained about a stone on the cycle. I remember posting about it in 2006, I just can't be arsed to look it up. Strength was crazy mate, could not believe the power and energy I had.
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Ta mate.

Ah your from belfast mate, im from L/derry :)

O up to now i had thought SD was wetter, but from what ive read on this forum, PP seems wetter. Do you know which was geared more for mass and which was geared more for strength, been reading threads on here they say SD = strength and PP = weight gain.
 
Icemansoldier said:
Ta mate.

Ah your from belfast mate, im from L/derry :)

O up to now i had thought SD was wetter, but from what ive read on this forum, PP seems wetter. Do you know which was geared more for mass and which was geared more for strength, been reading threads on here they say SD = strength and PP = weight gain.
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Agree with that I would, PP mass, SD strength, for me it was
 
no offense guys but using SD and PP anywhere near eachother is fckn retarded in mine and most opinions. Regardless good luck and take those support supps.
 
searl12 said:
no offense guys but using SD and PP anywhere near eachother is fckn retarded in mine and most opinions. Regardless good luck and take those support supps.
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You mean casue its hard on the liver b/c they both meths? Lots of poeple have ran both, together, mostly bridged from what i can see.
 
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