2nd cycle, advice, test tren anadrol

alexfire17

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hello fellow meat heads. heres my cycle and everything i do on a day to day basis. please feel free to give any advice ill take it.
stats: 23 yo, 5'5'', about 190 lbs

Gear

test cyp 200 mg/twice a week
tren ace 100 mg/EOD
anadrol 25 mg/EOD (4 weeks on 4 off)
nolvadex 25 mg/ ED (for gyno)

test E 250mg/ twice a week (when cyp runs out)
Clomid 25 mg/EOD (for PCT when time comes)

Supplements

nitric oxide 1 scoop/ before workout
bcaa 1-2 scoops/ during workout
creatine 1 scoop/ after workout
glutamine 1 scoop/ after workout
carbs 50 g/ after or during hard workouts
whey protein 22g-44g/after workouts
casein protein 25g/ sometimes before bed or emergency snack

fish oil 1100 mg/ED
Coq10 200 mg/ED
animal pak 44/ED
intestinew 1 pill/ EOD (when taking orals, for stomach discomfort)
milk thistle or liver rescue 1 pill (only if i feel is needed, animal pal already has milk thistle)

Food

about 6 meals a day close to 300 g protein and 250 g carbs on a good day

Exercise

work out 2-3 days in a row with one break and repeat.
typically do:

chest
back
rest
legs
shoulders
arms
rest

progress pics
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Nolva on cycle is the best way to ruin your gains. Stupid idea. Run a ai and have something like camber on hand in case of progesterone gyno from tren
 
alexfire17 said:
Why is nolva so bad if it’s an anti estrogen?
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Nolva isn't an anti e. It plays a totally different roll in estrogen than aromison. Nolva will hinder gains if you take it on cycle. Completely diminish gains compared to not taking it. If you want to control estrogen get aromison (exemestane) run it 12.5mg ed
 
I don't understand why you'd do anadrol EOD.
 
Recognize said:
Nolva isn't an anti e. It plays a totally different roll in estrogen than aromison. Nolva will hinder gains if you take it on cycle. Completely diminish gains compared to not taking it. If you want to control estrogen get aromison (exemestane) run it 12.5mg ed
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Thanks!!
 
Nolva will not hinder your gains on cycle, it will hinder it as much as an ai ;) it's not a common approach to take nolva on cycle but i've seen guys do it with succes.

I'd take the anadrol for 4 weeks at 50-75mg ed.

And I'd do a cut
 
Mucci said:
Nolva on hinder your gains on cycle, it will hinder it as much as an ai ;) it's not a common approach to take nolva on cycle but i've seen guys do it with succes.

I'd take the anadrol for 4 weeks at 50-75mg ed.

And I'd do a cut
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You have no clue what you're talking about with nolva and ai's no offense
 
Mucci said:
Tell me Why nolva would hinder your gains on cycle
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Because it reduces your natural IGF production, the root of all muscle growth.
 
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