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22 Years old with 460 ng test leveles. Help!

surfnskate98

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HI i am 22 years old with 45-50 year old man test levels. I still have retained my muscle mass and my balls havent turned into swiffer balls but i would like to boost my test levels up. I am in the middle of using a doctor that is about to put me on a cycle of hcg. What do you guys think about that and also do you have any recommendations for any solid products that help boost igf1-hgh . Thanks in advance for the advice.
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You need to relax. 460ng/dl, even at your age, is not a big deal at all. If you are asymptomatic, then embrace your natural levels rather than looking to self-medicate a non-issue.

If your doctor is contemplating putting u on hcg for 460 ng/dl test with no symptoms, you need to stop seeing him immediately and discontinue all future contact
 
embrace my natural levels? at 460? that's not normal for my age I should but on the upper scale 700-1100ng at my age. My symptoms are a-z.
 
im not trying to be a dick but why would a doctor test me for my testosterone levels if i didn't have any related symptoms ? also my neuroscreen came back and my serotonin was half of what is should be it was 60, the range was from 120-160
 
surfnskate98 said:
embrace my natural levels? at 460? that's not normal for my age I should but on the upper scale 700-1100ng at my age. My symptoms are a-z.
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You were not clear about any symptoms at all in your OP. Usually when someone is seeking some form of TRT, it is due to low-T-induced lifestyle issues, not a sheet of bloodwork that has you at almost 100% of the low-normal range.
 
surfnskate98 said:
im not trying to be a dick but why would a doctor test me for my testosterone levels if i didn't have any related symptoms ? also my neuroscreen came back and my serotonin was half of what is should be it was 60, the range was from 120-160
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My mistake for not doing a damn background check on your username. You didn't get the answer you wanted because you provided no indication of any of this in the OP. You came off as someone who got some bloodwork back and was panicking because things didn't seem right. You even cited examples of how your test-levels were not bothering you (i.e. muscle mass and testicles).

My answer is the same nonetheless. People can come here and push products on you, but if you truly have symptoms of low T, you need clinical treatment.
 
surfnskate98 said:
have you ever heard of biotoxins or heavy metals playing a role in altering someones endocrine system?
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Yes, and they most certainly can. It is heavily dependent on the individual's biology, the dose-response curve of the specific compound, and the environment in which one lives.
 
I think there is a misconception that people who have less than optimal testosterone levels for their age are missing out on specific benefits (namely muscle growth, etc). I doubt improving your T from 460 will lead to all the improvements you are hoping to realize, unless you take it to supraphysiological levels. Furthermore, there are several factors related to your T levels, such as your current diet and micronutrient status. Also, how many times have you had your levels tested and during what time of the day? Lastly, it would be more telling to see the rest of your blood work as well.
 
If you come back with levels at 460, at any age, I would never be concerned. That could be any number of factors. I would get tested several times and do it in the morning. You wouldn't believe how much poor sleep, stress, excessive working out, less than optimal diet, any drinking, etc play in the fluctuation of test numbers.
 
I had my test level checked in the morning around 10 am. My sleep is from 11pm-8am I eat all organic food, high protien diet high veggies , spring water only, with very little carbs. My supplements are krill oil, sublingual b12, chorella , pregnenalone and dhea , I was exposed to a toxic environment that had mold for quite some time. What Blood work would you like to see? i have like 15 pages of blood work
 
I don't think we need to see it- we aren't doctors or endos. Everything here will just be speculation and guessing. I would start working with an endo and get a couple of tests. You have a baseline now and can work off of that.

I mean, unless your goal is to stay on HRT, then go for it. I know I wouldn't want to be on anything at such a young age. My endo and doc want me on TRT at 38 and I am hesitant.
 
With your T level where it is I wouldn't be looking to hrt for improvements especially at your age. Something as simple as lifestyle changes could show improvements. If you aren't happy with your current T level I would suggest you concentrate more on figuring out WHY it isn't optimal instead of potentially covering up any underlying issues.
 
surfnskate98 said:
HI i am 22 years old with 45-50 year old man test levels. I still have retained my muscle mass and my balls havent turned into swiffer balls but i would like to boost my test levels up. I am in the middle of using a doctor that is about to put me on a cycle of hcg. What do you guys think about that and also do you have any recommendations for any solid products that help boost igf1-hgh . Thanks in advance for the advice.
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I wouldnt run the HCG, i would first use something like 50mg clomid every other day, but you can probably get by with lifestyle intervention. 460 is not low.

Whats your diet and exercise routine like? How are you sleeping? Whats your body fat? Estradiol levels?
 
My symptoms are no morning wood, No libido, no energy, depression, problems with methalyation , horrible brain fog . Okay thanks for the info i could see this is the wrong forum and place for my type of questions. Thanks for the feed back.
 
surfnskate98 said:
My symptoms are no morning wood, No libido, no energy, depression, problems with methalyation , horrible brain fog . Okay thanks for the info i could see this is the wrong forum and place for my type of questions. Thanks for the feed back.
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I'm guessing that these are not low test related since your test isn't very low. What does your doc say? Something is obviously off
 
surfnskate98 said:
My symptoms are no morning wood, No libido, no energy, depression, problems with methalyation , horrible brain fog . Okay thanks for the info i could see this is the wrong forum and place for my type of questions. Thanks for the feed back.
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It sounds like you really just want to get on TRT. That is the run down of the list to be a candidate, but with those test levels, these shouldn't be factors. It's likely something else, but you seem dead set, so unless we say it's not normal you aren't going to listen.
 
Im just telling you how i am feeling. I rather not get on trt. I have been doing chelation therapy with high dosage of vitamin c 25g iv with the l-glutathione my doctor is going to be mixing in hcg soon to elevate my levels to help upregulate my serotonin. I just made this post to get your opinion on hcg.
 
When did you start using dhea and preg? And why? Also, how long have you been on them prior to bloods?

Id suggest dropping them immediately, they are likely doing you no benefit, perhaps hurting your efforts
 
what is your estradiol level? my guess is you are aromatizing your testosterone into estrogen, just by looking at your symptoms.
 
simply put youll have trouble gaining as much muscle mass than if you were at higher levels .

Daa might be useful (most likely will riase your levels to Im going to say 600-800- bloodwork is needed for this)(weve had two people use daa where there bloodwork raised , one is a rep) hopefully you can raise your testosterone levels as this is how it works and ours is quality daa

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mr.cooper69 said:
You need to relax. 460ng/dl, even at your age, is not a big deal at all. If you are asymptomatic, then embrace your natural levels rather than looking to self-medicate a non-issue.

If your doctor is contemplating putting u on hcg for 460 ng/dl test with no symptoms, you need to stop seeing him immediately and discontinue all future contact
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Yeah really 450 is what I shoot for after coming off a cycle lol. That's a good enough level to maintain certainly. Diet probably sucks and exercise might be lacking in some areas. That might not be his case but diet and type of training and frequency of training have a huge play in t-levels I think.

I'd use a natty-t and an AI. That should easily fix ur problems.
 
kisaj said:
It sounds like you really just want to get on TRT. That is the run down of the list to be a candidate, but with those test levels, these shouldn't be factors. It's likely something else, but you seem dead set, so unless we say it's not normal you aren't going to listen.
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I agree. I've been around 300-350 before with the only symptoms of such was slow recovery and a moderate loss in strength. Energy was decent and sleep was good at that level for me.
 
I had my levels at 268 and I'm 24 after a botched pct five months after pct*. I was on a cut and training a ****load. I had zero libido, no boners, and extremely tired. I ran nolva, I cut down my efforts, upped my calories, increased intake of healthy fats, Switched my trainin up and started doin legs twice a week and mainly compound heavy movements. I checked last month and my test was 550ng/dl and now if I were to guess my levels I'd say my levels are in the 700's. Relax. Eat and train heavy those numbers aren't alarming, there's so many factors when it comes to this sort of thing and the only time you should be buggin is after multiple low results. Your only gonna get in your head more if you stress over it, and trust me your levels arent to be stressed over
 
I meant to add several months after pct, for my initial pct I ran torem but I think it was a bad batch or out of suspension
 
mccallister said:
I had my levels at 268 and I'm 24 after a botched pct five months after pct*. I was on a cut and training a ****load. I had zero libido, no boners, and extremely tired. I ran nolva, I cut down my efforts, upped my calories, increased intake of healthy fats, Switched my trainin up and started doin legs twice a week and mainly compound heavy movements. I checked last month and my test was 550ng/dl and now if I were to guess my levels I'd say my levels are in the 700's. Relax. Eat and train heavy those numbers aren't alarming, there's so many factors when it comes to this sort of thing and the only time you should be buggin is after multiple low results. Your only gonna get in your head more if you stress over it, and trust me your levels arent to be stressed over
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Good post. This is exactly what many of us have referenced in this thread, excellent example.
 
460 can be normal for some people. not everybody who is 22 is going to have test at 950. anyways, if u want a test boost, take DAA + Sustain Alpha + IGF 2
 
surfnskate98 said:
My symptoms are no morning wood, No libido, no energy, depression, problems with methalyation , horrible brain fog . Okay thanks for the info i could see this is the wrong forum and place for my type of questions. Thanks for the feed back.
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Sounds like you need some of dat der Intimidate stacked with Testabolan v2 and a complete change in diet.
 
As much as I dislike OP's attitude, if he is symptomatic of low T, you guys really need to stop pushing products on him. Refer to earlier post:

mr.cooper69 said:
My answer is the same nonetheless. People can come here and push products on you, but if you truly have symptoms of low T, you need clinical treatment.
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I don't want to be on TRT at MY age....I'd just stockpile it and use it ~6 months of the year and normalize my system (to whatever it is low or middle or whatever) the other part of the year....Imagine being on TRT for 2/3-3/4 of your life? that would suck big time.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
I don't want to be on TRT at MY age....I'd just stockpile it and use it ~6 months of the year and normalize my system (to whatever it is low or middle or whatever) the other part of the year....Imagine being on TRT for 2/3-3/4 of your life? that would suck big time.
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LOL. Warbird. I went to read your comment and all I saw was "youre tasting the wrong bholes....." LMAO
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
thats a long story :D......started off with the thread title "so and so supp tastes like ***hole" lol. the answer to that post was whats in my sig
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Lol epic!
 
R1balla said:
460 can be normal for some people. not everybody who is 22 is going to have test at 950. anyways, if u want a test boost, take DAA + Sustain Alpha + IGF 2
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I'm in total agreement. your blood levels can vary as everyone else has said. as for being tired, you're sleeping 9 hours a night. cut it down to 7. i sleep more than 8 and i feel like i got hit by a mac truck. just because everything says to do something a set way, ie: "do 4 sets of 10 for maximum muscle growth" doesnt mean it will work for you. that goes hand in hand with your test levels and your other hormones. you didnt really elaborate too heavily on your diet. are you eating red meat? the fats in red meat are proven to increase t levels. for a little while i was only eating chicken and fish. i put red meat back into my diet and i **** you not i felt like i was in high school again. wet dreams and random boners at work included. carbohydrates, low carb is garbage. i've always seen diets based off of about 60% carbs, 30% protien 10%fats. you might be harming your self there. in all seriousness changing things around will help with your "low T" symptoms. also. go to another dr. get another blood test. see what the dr's opinion is. dont even mention what the last one did. its like going to a mechanic. if you say you think you have a vaccum leak theyll change hoses and you might still have the problem. medicine is mostly educated guesswork from what i've noticed. your symptoms can be caused by a lot of things. not just low testosterone. i wouldnt bother with taking t boosters and everything else until you can get natural production under control which you may be able to do through diet alone. numbers are just numbers man. 460 is "better" than 360. best of luck with everything. hopefully this helps a little bit.
 
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