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Here is the deal. I did a ph cycle of the old Jungle Warfare (8weeks). The last 4 weeks I pulsed epidrol (stupid idea considering gains were already nice). Lost ability of morning wood. I can an erection but only when fully aroused (I don't randomly get erections). So Libido is low considering before the fact I was a horny lil ****er.

I WENT TO THE DOCTOR. The doc ran blood tests and determined everything was fine with all my levels. Which was great but just because my levels were fine I didn't feel it in person. (I saw the doctor about 4 months after cycle).

I am considering a short clomid cycle to see if I can get some libido back. What should I was for a dosing protocol.

I was thinking 25mg ED for 2 weeks and the the next 2 weeks at 12.5mg ED. Or should I run it a bit longer for 25mg or 12.5ED for 2 months.

I'm really looking for solid advice. My docs all suck but with my insurance its hard finding a doc that it covers. I've needed Tommy John surgery for years now and haven't received it. It has hindered my baseball play so I doubt my docs will help work on my endo system esp when my "levels" are fine.
 
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Dont run clomid for 2 months, your dosing at 1 month is fine considering your levels are all in place. Have you thought about using a natty test booster, that may solve the libido problem...
 
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Dont run clomid for 2 months, your dosing at 1 month is fine considering your levels are all in place. Have you thought about using a natty test booster, that may solve the libido problem...
I agree. Try 4 weeks first.

25mg EOD actually.

Natty T boosters are a good idea as well.......

Alot of raves about testopro and sustain alpha for the libido department.
 
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I can vouch for sustain alpha. Excited to try the new liqui-vade. I'd give that a shot.
 

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Thanks gentlemen. so 25mg EOD for a month? Does that sound good?
 

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btw, natty test boosters have been used. Did Sustain keep libido going after use?
 

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If you can get some HCG and dose that once a week, and run alongside Nolva 20mg/day for a month that would probably work as well
 
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btw, natty test boosters have been used. Did Sustain keep libido going after use?
yup. it did. But I never had a big libido crash, just a minor dip during my cycle.
 
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Tormephine Citrate smokes nolva and clomid for this. It's like miracle grow for the balls. DON'T use hCG, as it will delay recovery.
 
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Tormephine Citrate smokes nolva and clomid for this. It's like miracle grow for the balls. DON'T use hCG, as it will delay recovery.
ehhhhhhhh, maybe nolva but not clomid.

HCG has its place, but its used in replacement of the axis doing its job, and clomid is used to stimulate/test the axis in doing its job.

Experts can chime in if i butchered that differentiation.

Also, there is not enough clinical work(in males) on Torem to be making that statement.

FWIW. Techinically its Toremifine(Fareston).
 
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ehhhhhhhh, maybe nolva but not clomid.

HCG has its place, but its used in replacement of the axis doing its job, and clomid is used to stimulate/test the axis in doing its job.

Experts can chime in if i butchered that differentiation.

Also, there is not enough clinical work(in males) on Torem to be making that statement.

FWIW. Techinically its Toremifine(Fareston).
No self-proclaimed expert but I would agree with you. hCG, IMO, is to be used on cycle to prevent testes from atrophy. In terms of getting the HPTA to do its job clomid.
 
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u need to get a copy from ur doctor of the actual values, secondly this is why u get ur values done before u go on cycle because even tho right now ur in the limits of normal ur never going to know what u where before and its going to be a wild goose chase for u to try and reach what u think u where and each day that passes that ur not normal ur actually going to forget what normal feels like.

That being said i think u should go get ur values, run the clomid to try and restart, get a natty test booster ( i also agree sustain alpha is very good), and see where u are, after this i think you should take a good year off to let ur body actually get back to normal and from now on get blood tests prior to doing cycles as this is a perfect example of ur hormones being acceptable but not where they are supposed to be
 

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Hey bro. Im 20 and I was completely shut down from a superdrol cycle.
I waited a month and then went to an endocrinologist to see that my test levels were normal as well (on the very low side of normal 240). But because they were still in the normal range, the doc wouldnt prescribe me anything.

I waited an additonal month.. and then ran animal stak (a weak natural testbooster, with a natural weak AI). And then went back to the endocrinologist after the cycle and had test levels of 640. And a good rise in libido.

Give it time bro. It'll come back... If you need your penis on a regular basis as I do, do yourself a favor and get some cialis. You'll be the happiest kid in the world.

I live by the stuff now.
 

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So will 25mg EOD be sufficient on getting me close to normal? I have read studies of people having success due to their youth with clomid but they were dosed at 25mg+ for 2 months at a time. I also understand Clomid has a long lasting half-life.
 
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So will 25mg EOD be sufficient on getting me close to normal? I have read studies of people having success due to their youth with clomid but they were dosed at 25mg+ for 2 months at a time. I also understand Clomid has a long lasting half-life.
give it a shot. Not likely it will hurt.

Although if you are getting hormone panels done, it would be wise to be up front with your doctor if your seeking help.
 

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