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2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

Oconns28 said:
Rumours are that Marshawn Lynch is interested in the Patriots!! That would just be unfair! Lol Lynch as the power with those 2 talented speed backs Lewis and I forget the other dude.
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James White
 
jimbuick said:
Hard to believe someone could forget the guy who carried the Pats in their SB win just 2 months ago lol.
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Lol very fair. In my defence I had my 3rd child last Wednesday which makes 3 under 4 years old. The house has been a little crazy and the old brain power isn't firing at 100%
 
Kirk Cousins doesn't expect to be anywhere other than with the Washington Redskins in 2017.
James Laurinaitis, who carved out an eight-year career as one of the game's most productive, reliable middle linebackers, is retiring from the NFL.
Former No. 3 overall pick Dion Jordan has agreed to a contract with the Seattle Seahawks,
New York Giants linebacker and defensive captain Jonathan Casillas doesn't think it's a coincidence that he was selected for a random drug test one day after posting a picture during a Dominican vacation with what he claimed was a rolled cigar in his hand.
The Jaguars released linebacker Dan Skuta on Tuesday, a move that leaves the team with only two players from their free agency class of 2015.
Troubled former Detroit Lions wide receiver Titus Young was sentenced to fours years in prison stemming from a 2016 incident, according to TMZ.
 
Miami's two-time Pro Bowler told a London crowd over the weekend that the Dolphins will sweep the reigning Super Bowl champion New England Patriots this upcoming season.

The Browns' decision appears to be between defensive end Myles Garrett and quarterback Mitchell Trubisky. IMO Garrett is the golden ticket. Pick a QB with 2nd pick in Round 1

The city of St. Louis filed a lawsuit Wednesday against the National Football League over the Rams' relocation to Los Angeles, alleging the league violated its own relocation guidelines and enriched itself at the expense of the community it left behind.
 
2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

Colts sign Johnathan Hankins 3 years 30 mill. Loving what Ballard is doing in free agency multiple signings on D. Im used to Grigson sitting on his thumb all offseason so this is nice.
 
2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

jswain34 said:
Colts sign Johnathan Hankins 3 years 30 mill. Loving what Ballard is doing in free agency multiple signings on D. Im used to Grigson sitting on his thumb all offseason so this is nice.
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Hankins is good, but not elite. $10M a year makes him the highest paid defender on the Colts. He had a stud line and still wasn't elite last year. In his defense, he was playing out of position and he's young.

Plus, Luck still has a trash OL and this is a weak draft for OL and strong for DL. But Colts definitely added some talent this off season. Maybe lucks prime won't get wasted because he's on a junk team ala tony romo
 
Woody said:
Hankins is good, but not elite. $10M a year makes him the highest paid defender on the Colts. He had a stud line and still wasn't elite last year. In his defense, he was playing out of position and he's young.

Plus, Luck still has a trash OL and this is a weak draft for OL and strong for DL. But Colts definitely added some talent this off season. Maybe lucks prime won't get wasted because he's on a junk team ala tony romo
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Ill take an above average, young d-lineman at this point. Someone who has been successful and is young with a lot of potential is worth it for me at this stage. Id rather do that than pay for guys who are old and will be retiring in 3 seasons or less like grigson had done. And remember, the colts dont really have any "stars" aside from vontae, so if Ballard thinks that Hankins has the potential, i will give him the benefit of the doubt on his first "gamble" and think that it's justified to pay him that to bring him in.

I will agree that, collectively, the o-line has done a trash job, but I wouldn't say that the individual guys (at least the top guys on the depth chart) are trash just yet. They have given up A LOT of hits since luck came into the league, but they also havent had the time to develop any chemistry. They need another piece but i think they have the potential to be "good enough". They had a **** ton of injuries in the line early in the season last year so it was hard to really get a grasp of what we had. Joe haeg, costanzo, kelly are all young guys with potential imo.

Here's a quote from the colts website, i didn't realize the #s were THIS bad, but here they are:

"Again, we’ll give you two. 35 and 578. The first is the number of starting line combinations quarterback Andrew Luck has lined up behind in his 70 regular-season games. That’s ridiculous. The second is the number of QB hits the Colts have allowed since Luck’s arrival in 2012. That’s the most in the NFL over the last five seasons; the woeful Cleveland Browns are second with 545, according to NFL.com. That’s beyond ridiculous."

35 combos in 70 games...with a close to a fifth of those being last season if im not mistaken (i dont remember the exact # of combos, but i remember i was like holy **** when i heard the # at some point last season). Thats tough, for any team, especially if you dont have the depth at even one OL position let alone more than one.
 
Hernandez not guilty of first-degree murder in the killings of Daniel de Abreu and Safiro Furtado.

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The jury found Hernandez not guilty of first-degree murder in the killings of Daniel de Abreu and Safiro Furtado. It convicted him of a single charge: unlawful possession of gun. The judge sentenced him to an additional four to five years in prison, separate from his existing life sentence, for that conviction.
 
Washington Redskins linebacker Trent Murphy was officially suspended for the first four games of the 2017 season after violating the NFL's policy on performance-enhancing drugs

The Houston Texans have picked up the fifth-year option on defensive end Jadeveon Clowney, a source confirmed Friday.

Roddy White, the Atlanta Falcons' all-time leading receiver, announced his retirement Friday.

The New York Jets were hit with their third suspension in six weeks on Friday, as cornerback/punt returner Nick Marshall was banned four games for violating the NFL's policy on performance-enhancing substances.
 
Hoping the Giants sign Jared Odrick. Would also like Nick Mangold.

Then draft:
Njoku, Jarrad Davis, Antonio Garcia, Nathan Peterman, Deshaun Hall, Matt Milano/Kendall Beckworth, Chris Carson

Would give us a future starting ILB and OLB, future QB, starting TE and OT, a between the tackles RB, and depth at DE.
 
Not sure if 100% true, but if so holy crap

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Former TE Todd Heap hits, kills daughter in truck accident

Former Ravens and Cardinals tight end Todd Heap has been involved in a fatal accident at his home in Mesa, Ariz., according to a spokesman with the Mesa Police Department.

Heap, 37, was moving his truck in his driveway on Friday afternoon when it accidentally struck his three-year-old daughter, according to police. She was taken to a local hospital where she was pronounced dead.
 
Bengals cornerback Adam Jones went on a verbal tirade against a reporter just minutes into the team's first open interview period of the offseason on Monday.

Ray Rice will contribute to the NFL's annual social responsibility presentation to players and staff this year. The former running back for the Ravens, whose career came to an end after video emerged of him punching his fiancée in an elevator in 2014, will discuss the impact his behavior had on his life.

A Santa Clara County judge has dismissed a rape charge against former San Francisco 49ers defensive tackle Ray McDonald after prosecutors said the woman who made the allegation refused to testify.
 
The New England Patriots extended an offer sheet to Buffalo Bills running back Mike Gillislee on Tuesday.
The offer is for two years and is worth $6.4 million, including $4 million in the first year,

For a second straight season, there appears to be a strain between the Chargers' brass and talented defensive end Joey Bosa.
Chargers head coach Anthony Lynn confirmed to reporters here at Chargers Park on Tuesday that Bosa has been working with his personal trainer in Florida away from the facility the last two weeks, rather than attending voluntary workouts at Chargers Park.

New England Patriots cornerback Malcolm Butler has signed his restricted free-agent tender, which opens the possibility that the team could trade him. Because a player can't be traded unless he is under contract, Butler's status was in limbo until he signed the $3.91 million tender.

The Oakland Raiders cut defensive tackle Dan Williams,

Joe Haden's mock draft is set and Myles Garrett is his choice for the first pick, which belongs to his team -- the Cleveland Browns.

Linebacker Stephen Tulloch is retiring after 11 seasons in the NFL.
Tulloch, who played for the Titans, Lions and Eagles, will officially make the announcement Thursday at a press conference at Detroit's practice facility, about a year after the team released him.
 
Former pats TE Aaron Hernandez has committed suicide. He was discovered this morning at 305, hanging from a bed sheet in his cell. Life saving measures were tried but unsuccessful. Hernandez had attempted to block any entrance into his cell by jamming a chair and other items against the door.
 
The Solution said:
Former pats TE Aaron Hernandez has committed suicide. He was discovered this morning at 305, hanging from a bed sheet in his cell. Life saving measures were tried but unsuccessful. Hernandez had attempted to block any entrance into his cell by jamming a chair and other items against the door.
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Was legitimately shocked when I saw this headline upon logging on this morning. Wow.
 
The Solution said:
The New England Patriots extended an offer sheet to Buffalo Bills running back Mike Gillislee on Tuesday.
The offer is for two years and is worth $6.4 million, including $4 million in the first year
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The rich get richer if Bills don't match it. Him + Burkhead would be a great duo.
 
Woody said:
The rich get richer if Bills don't match it. Him + Burkhead would be a great duo.
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I didn't even read what you had quoted and at first thought this was in reference to Hernandez, which made me scratch my head and laugh simultaneously.
 
The Plot thickens:
Hernandez commits suicide but under the state of Mass law if you die during the appeal of a conviction, automatically the original conviction becomes null and void.
This means he never violated the New England Patriots contract thus his daughter is enables to $15 million. This is the $ the patriots promised to pay him weather he died a day after signing the contract.

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A judge on Friday ordered key evidence in the prison suicide of Aaron Hernandez preserved, granting a request from the ex-NFL star's fiancee so the family can investigate the circumstances of his death.


Attorneys representing the New York Giants and Eli Manning have fired back, filing a motion stating that "relevant evidence" was intentionally omitted to create the impression that the quarterback was complicit in a game-used memorabilia scheme.


The Oakland Raiders remain interested in acquiring retired running back Marshawn Lynch from the Seattle Seahawks, even if talks have seemingly quieted down of late.


Although the Houston Texans have only two quarterbacks on their roster, with Tom Savage set to be the starter next season, general manager Rick Smith said he doesn't feel pressure to take a quarterback in the first round of next week's draft.


Former Oklahoma running back Joe Mixon reached a civil settlement agreement Friday with the woman he punched almost three years ago.


Jaguars coach Doug Marrone hasn't spoken with left tackle Branden Albert, who is one of three players not participating in the team's voluntary offseason conditioning program, and he says he has no idea whether Albert will report before a three-day mandatory minicamp in June.
 
Former Florida defensive tackle Caleb Brantley, who is considered a potential first- or second-round pick in this week's NFL draft, was charged on Friday with misdemeanor simple battery after he allegedly struck a woman and knocked her unconscious during a dispute earlier this month.

Seven seasons after walking away from the San Francisco 49ers and the NFL, running back Glen Coffee is attempting a comeback.
 
The New Orleans Saints and free-agent running back Adrian Peterson are negotiating a contract

The Buffalo Bills decided not to match the New England Patriots' offer sheet to running back Mike Gillislee on Monday.
Gillislee's deal with the Patriots is for two years and worth $6.4 million, including $4 million in the first year

The NFL has notified teams that Michigan's Jabrill Peppers tested positive for a dilute sample at the scouting combine

A Massachusetts judge has ordered a district attorney to hand over copies of three suicide notes left by Aaron Hernandez by the time the former New England Patriots tight end is buried.
 
NFL draft prospect D'Onta Foreman revealed Monday that he played through the pain of losing his infant son during his prolific junior season at Texas.

Adrian Peterson tells ESPN's Josina Anderson Tuesday morning that he plans to sign with New Orleans Saints on a two-year deal that is effectively a 1-year deal plus a 1-year option.
Peterson told Anderson that the deal is worth a base total value of $7 million
 
My yahoo sports app said 3.5M guaranteed...3.5M in performance incentives should be pretty damn motivational.
 
I predict AP gets the first crack at it but from a fantasy perspective both player's draft stock (Ingram > AP) take a big hit.
 
Former Ohio State cornerback Gareon Conley has been accused by a woman of raping her in a Cleveland hotel earlier this month, according to Cleveland police.

The Pittsburgh Steelers got a big-time weapon back into the fold just in time for the NFL draft.
Wide receiver Martavis Bryant has been "conditionally" reinstated to the NFL after serving a season-long suspension, general manager Kevin Colbert said in a statement.

Arizona Cardinals linebacker Daryl Washington has been reinstated on a conditional basis by the NFL following his suspension for violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy.

An Atlanta stadium official says workers are racing to complete the $1.5 billion project in the next three months after ongoing roof issues have delayed the facility's opening.
 
Raiders acquired RB Marshawn Lynch and a 2018 sixth-round pick from the Seahawks in exchange for a 2018 fifth-round pick...2yr contract

Titans are getting bids for 5th round pick
Bucs are thinking of trading out of first round

Again all speculation according to ESPN
 
The Solution said:
Raiders acquired RB Marshawn Lynch and a 2018 sixth-round pick from the Seahawks in exchange for a 2018 fifth-round pick...2yr contract

Titans are getting bids for 5th round pick
Bucs are thinking of trading out of first round

Again all speculation according to ESPN
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Titans and Brown's will trade
 
Oconns28 said:
Seen this as well. Browns grab the best player in garret then trade back up and grab their QB Trubisky
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Trubinsky most likely would be there at 12 ... I don't see it as a favorable trade up for the browns. Even if Trubinski is gone there are a few other great QB options.
 
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Trubinsky most likely would be there at 12 ... I don't see it as a favorable trade up for the browns. Even if Trubinski is gone there are a few other great QB options.
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Agreed. But they have a plethora of picks so if he's their guy why not grab him.

I'll have my mock up soon. Have steelers taking peppers ATM.
 
Woody said:
Agreed. But they have a plethora of picks so if he's their guy why not grab him.

I'll have my mock up soon. Have steelers taking peppers ATM.
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I wanna see your Mock, and i 100% Agree with you he will be there, I would not risk it to lose another pick in the draft. The browns need all the help they can get.
 
2017 NFL Draft & Season Chat Thread

1. Cleveland Browns – Myles Garrett, DE
2. San Francisco 49ers – Jamal Adams, S
3. Chicago Bears – Solomon Thomas, DE
4. Jacksonville Jaguars – Leonard Fournette, RB
5. Tennessee Titans – Johnathon Allen, DE
6. New York Jets – Malik Hooker, S
7. Los Angeles Chargers – Marshon Lattimore, CB
8. Carolina Panthers – Christian McCaffrey, RB
9. Cincinnati Bengals – Derek Barnett, DE
10. Buffalo Bills – Corey Davis, WR
11. New Orleans Saints – Charles Harris, DE
12. Cleveland Browns – OJ Howard, TE
13. Arizona Cardinals – Patrick Mahomes, QB
14. Philadelphia Eagles – Marlon Humphrey, CB
15. Indianapolis Colts – Hassan Reddick, LB/DE
16. Baltimore Ravens – Mike Williams, WR
17. Washington Redskins – Obi Melfonwu, S
18. Tennessee Titans – Reuban Foster, ILB
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Dalvin Cook, RB
20. Denver Broncos – Ryan Ramczyk, OT
21. Detroit Lions – Jarrad Davis, ILB
22. Miami Dolphins – Forrest Lamp, OG
23. New York Giants – David Njoku, TE
24. Oakland Raiders – Kevin King, CB
25. Houston Texans – Cam Robinson, OT
26. Seattle Seahawks – Garrett Boles, OT
27. Kansas City Chiefs – TJ Watt, OLB
28. Dallas Cowboys – Jordan Willis, DE
29. Green Bay Packers – Adoree Jackson, CB
30. Pittsburgh Steelers – Jabril Peppers
31. Atlanta Falcons – Taco Charlton, DE
32. New Orleans Saints – Takkarist McKinley, DE
 
I could see Tennessee taking a CB at 5 or 18, but I think Allen and Foster will give them a formidable front 7.
 
Woody said:
1. Cleveland Browns – Myles Garrett, DE
2. San Francisco 49ers – Jamal Adams, S
3. Chicago Bears – Solomon Thomas, DE
4. Jacksonville Jaguars – Leonard Fournette, RB
5. Tennessee Titans – Johnathon Allen, DE
6. New York Jets – Malik Hooker, S
7. Los Angeles Chargers – Marshon Lattimore, CB
8. Carolina Panthers – Christian McCaffrey, RB
9. Cincinnati Bengals – Derek Barnett, DE
10. Buffalo Bills – Corey Davis, WR
11. New Orleans Saints – Charles Harris, DE
12. Cleveland Browns – OJ Howard, TE
13. Arizona Cardinals – Patrick Mahomes, QB
14. Philadelphia Eagles – Marlon Humphrey, CB
15. Indianapolis Colts – Hassan Reddick, LB/DE
16. Baltimore Ravens – Mike Williams, WR
17. Washington Redskins – Obi Melfonwu, S
18. Tennessee Titans – Reuban Foster, ILB
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Dalvin Cook, RB
20. Denver Broncos – Ryan Ramczyk, OT
21. Detroit Lions – Jarrad Davis, ILB
22. Miami Dolphins – Forrest Lamp, OG
23. New York Giants – David Njoku, TE
24. Oakland Raiders – Kevin King, CB
25. Houston Texans – Cam Robinson, OT
26. Seattle Seahawks – Garrett Boles, OT
27. Kansas City Chiefs – TJ Watt, OLB
28. Dallas Cowboys – Jordan Willis, DE
29. Green Bay Packers – Adoree Jackson, CB
30. Pittsburgh Steelers – Jabril Peppers
31. Atlanta Falcons – Taco Charlton, DE
32. New Orleans Saints – Takkarist McKinley, DE
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I think that's a reasonable mock. I think the Jets front office is under so much pressure, however, that I don't see them drafting a safety with their first. They'll either reach for a QB, RB or trade back to acquire more picks. They're gonna want to make a splash pick at 6.

Same with San Fran...I don't see them picking a safety at 2. Even if the prospect warrants it, everyone keeps reporting how this is a historically deep safety class, so I think those guys get bumped down. Just my opinion.

Otherwise, I think that mock looks solid.
 
I'd also add that as a very tepid Raiders fan, they need bodies in the middle of that D. I don't think they go corner. They need interior lineman or mike backer.
 
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