2009 Mr. Olympia Winner - Poll
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MentalTwitch
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none. Victor, Heath or Kai. But if i must choose one of the above Dex.
raginfcktard
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i gotta agree here. the poll has vet favs but dex lacks size to jay, coleman is too old (still awesome but don't think he's got it) and jay is too big in the waist for all the new competition (he won't give up enough size to correct it imo)
heath 3rd. vic and kai are hard. kai has better glutes and legs but i think vic is more aesthetically pleasing imo. all three will have great conditioning! if vic come 100% i say...
1 vic
2 kai
3 heath
MF210
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C'mon bro. You know how this sport works. The odds are strongly in favor of the former Mr. O's....always has been, plus the Mr. O's have had a year to prepare unlike vic, kai, and heath who have just competed recently.
You may like vic, kai, and heath for top three, but there is NO WAY the judges place Jay, Dex, and Ronnie at 4th, 5th, and 6th under those guys.
I like Vic myself, and could see him busting in the top three for sure. Although Kai looked insane at the Arnold, he hasn't shown the consistency as the other top guys and is too much of a coin flip whether or not he'll be on point.
My 2 cents anyway.
raginfcktard
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remember i said vic must be at 100%...and he is the current fav back from his operation!
i do my friend and you have a valid point! but look here see: past o's also favored size. jay outweighed dex almost 30lbs last year. kai win's arnold...where past arnold winners typically place top 3 at the O!
heath breaks out top 3 where most start at the bottom and work up! he also grew 16lbs that year...how much this year who knows. conditioning rivaled only by dex. he combines the best traits of all his competition! this guy is only going up the latter.
i am a dex fan for the record...have been since i started training 8 years ago...long before he was predicted to win an O. i swore god made him is a test tube and his competition swears he gets ripped off potato chips! genetic freak where i only see heath taking his place! jay is my second as he is always humble! true inspiration and amazing spokesperson for the sport! i follow the sport somewhat and give my honest opinion...i am also not going to jock my favorite pro. i just call it like i see it!
MF210
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Right on about the shift in favoring sheer mass. Glad the judges finally shifted back towards aesthetics.
Good point about Heath too....I'm just leary about the newbies who bust out of nowhere. They have no record of consistency, and so many bodybuilders have ups and downs and can't stay consistent. I guess I'm bias towards the vets until they prove that.
Oh, and whoever said Jay was bloated last year at the Mr. O, take a look at this ab shot LOL. The only reason he didn't take first are the skin folds in his lower back. I am biased though b/c I'm a Jay fan. Like RaginFtrd, I admire his spokesmanship and humble nature. Best role model for the sport IMO.
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raginfcktard
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good points as well...09 should be exciting with actual competition!
some days idk who's my fav. dex or jay...i usually say dex cause he was the first bodybuilder that impressed me physique wise. then i started following the jay-ronnie battle and liked jays attitude and dedication after so many runner ups.
MF210
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Oh yes, this is the most anticipated Mr. O for me anyway. Serious competition for once.
Ditto with the Jay/Ronnie battles. Jay remained confident, humble, and politically correct as a runner up....while insecure Ronnie resulted to smack talk. The sport gets enough heat already, we need the Jay mentality.
raginfcktard
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i remember when he was on the cover of flex...chris cook too!
raginfcktard
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i had the subscription that year...when i grew up and realized it was just a photography mag with ads between the pics i got MD!
MF210
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Great physique so don't get me wrong, but totally lacking striations for a top contender.
2nd note.... I had high hopes for Chris Cook too ragingftrd, but like I said earlier....many have a quick run and then you wonder where they are? (Kai and Heath could be...or not)
WTF happened to Chris Cook though, he looked promising at a very young age too.
raginfcktard
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i don't think he could handle the financial side of competing at the pro level without a sponsor. i had high hopes for him too.
Broodstar
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DAMN RIGHT!
spiro
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Did Ronnie say he'll compete at the O? :scared:
paint2100
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Yes he is according to what I have read.
MF210
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Where did you see these recent photos/clips? Has he dropped weight? I saw him at the Arnold and agree he looked good, but hard to tell what his gut looked like in street clothes. I've never been a fan b/c of his bloated ab/thigh shot, but If he can drop some lbs. and control that he'll have a run. He won't win though :burnout:
elementrip
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Heath, seen the man in person and is immensely impressive off season. Dont be too surprised if the newcomer who took third his first time in the O snatches another top spot or even the title....
MF210
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Not doubting you.....Heath is impressive and will have a good show. But, I would be uttlerly shocked if he beats this super tough lineup this year! Cutler, Dex, Coleman, Martinez, Kai.......That's ballsy to say Heath will beat all of these solid contenders. Honestly, I'm pulling for Jay (obviously), but Dex is the guy to beat this year....all hype is focused on him. Plus he has the mental edge of actually being the current Mr. O.
elementrip
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No doubt the man has his work cut out for him to no end. Coleman is grasping at a goal he knows he's not going to snatch honestly. Jay is going to be working his ass off to reclaim the title and dex im afraid may get sloppy knowing he already won the previous comp... But its a bit too far out to be making real assumptions, when pics come out there will be countless threads full of guessing im sure
buster0371
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gustavo FTW
MF210
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You said it all right there. Nobody has a better work ethic than Jay. He's hungry and wants to go out number 1.
MF210
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I'm a Gustavo fan too, but he came in way to soft to compete at the 2009 Arnold: Love the Daddy Yankee at the 2:30 mark though.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-Qc9jyzBNc"]YouTube - Arnold Classic 2009 Gustavo Badell Posing[/ame]
buster0371
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poor gustavo. That one year he should have won it!!!!! 2006 i think it was?
MF210
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Since I've said I'm a fan of multiple people, l need to clarify:
My personal favs (in order):
Jay
Gustavo (Gustavo/Martinez tie LOL)
Martinez
Dex
Heath
Kai
Warren
Ronnie
My predictions for the 09 Olympia Judging (in order):
Jay
Dex
Martinez
Heath
Kai
Warren
Ronnie
Gustavo (needs to step up from arnold if he wants top 10)
My personal favs (in order):
Jay
Gustavo (Gustavo/Martinez tie LOL)
Martinez
Dex
Heath
Kai
Warren
Ronnie
My predictions for the 09 Olympia Judging (in order):
Jay
Dex
Martinez
Heath
Kai
Warren
Ronnie
Gustavo (needs to step up from arnold if he wants top 10)
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buster0371
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lol gustavo is going down hill no?
MF210
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Not at all... He still has a few more years to go, but his conditioning is not consistent. If he buckles down and comes in top shape, you're all in for a show stopper!
If he comes in like the 2009 Arnold.....
elementrip
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Gustavo has the tri's i'd kill for! lol
elementrip
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Personally of all bodybuilders running the main stages jay and phil have the best overall outlook on competing and training. They want it more than anyone but dont get all torn up if they are beat. Coming in second to ronnie all those years i'd have taken it to heart, but jay just transformed it to growth. And his close friend phil harbors the same thought process, less experienced but an incredibly intelligent individual. Had a couple conversations with him at my local supp shop and gym and he's unbelievably humble.
MF210
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I hope he gets serious and shock everybody this year....lord knows he can do it......time is running out though.
elementrip
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He did a guest posing at a contest this last saturday in CO. Wish i'd gone to be honest but priorities kill all the fun sometimes
MF210
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Good post. I definitely have Heath in my lineup, but I may not have given him enough credit due to my lack of knowledge on him. He is a newbie to the pro game, but a damn good one (as is Kai).
elementrip
Member
I've seen kai's training vids with vic and the man has immense potential as well! I wish i could go to the O this year!
MF210
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Just read in Flex Mag today that Jay is planning on bulking up to 310-315 in the off season before dieting down this year. I'm still pulling for him regardless, but wasn't really happy to hear he's trying to gain more weight. Especially with the judges shift towards aesthetics.
Just want him to stay healthy foremost, but secondly...... If he slimmed down towards Dex's size and came in just as ripped as Dex......show's over!
Bulk weight off season doesn't really matter, but I hope he doesn't play the Ronnie (size game)
Just want him to stay healthy foremost, but secondly...... If he slimmed down towards Dex's size and came in just as ripped as Dex......show's over!
Bulk weight off season doesn't really matter, but I hope he doesn't play the Ronnie (size game)
MF210
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Kai and Heath are badass, but I never liked Dennis. Probably b/c I think he is a Jay wanna be that will never happen. Not ripping on him though....just my opinion.
A lot of people really like Wolf.
MF210
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Dirty dog LOL. Dennis looks better in your post, but that looks like a posedown pic. (Dennis could be at full flex, and Cutler could be easing or coming off a pose).
As a rule of thumb, best comparison is of the individual prejudging poses. You be the judge.
