1andro plus 3ad what are your thoughts?

Anabaholic

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I've been thinking of doing an 8week run of:
440mg/day 1andro
50-75mg/day 3ad
Possibly adding in a td epiandro

And I have Virtus on hand for an ai, though I doubt I would need it
Tamox (I would dose 20/20/10/10) and rebirth for pct

For support I would be taking
320mg hawthorn extract
1.2g garlic extract
300mg coq10
600mg nac
Maybe some citrus bergamot?

What do you think? Am I missing anything? I've never ran 1andro or 3ad before
 
Anabaholic said:
I've been thinking of doing an 8week run of:
440mg/day 1andro
50-75mg/day 3ad
Possibly adding in a td epiandro

And I have Virtus on hand for an ai, though I doubt I would need it
Tamox (I would dose 20/20/10/10) and rebirth for pct

For support I would be taking
320mg hawthorn extract
1.2g garlic extract
300mg coq10
600mg nac
Maybe some citrus bergamot?

What do you think? Am I missing anything? I've never ran 1andro or 3ad before
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Looks good but don't expect anything groundbreaking. You should go with dermacrine over epiandro.
 
That's a good mild cycle for sure! 60 days at those dosages should result in a nice recomp. I've gained 8 lbs in 8 weeks running 1 dhea @ 440 mg. No gain in fat. Although lethargy is going to kick in hard at 30 days. Dermacrine or transdermal 4 dhea does the trick
 
I don't see anything converting to estrogen via aromatase in this stack.. no need for an AI except during PCT.
what exactly would be the goal of this cycle?
 
My goal would be to gain 6-8lbs of lean mass. What do you guys think about dermacrine vs epiandro for lethargy?
 
Looks like you’ve done your homework...Good first cycle, as you’ll see the 1 andro gets expensive but it’s definitely decent at 400mg+

Having run epi and 1 andro as my first too, in hindsight, I would add dermacrine in fo sho!
 
Rad83 said:
Looks like you’ve done your homework...Good first cycle, as you’ll see the 1 andro gets expensive but it’s definitely decent at 400mg+

Having run epi and 1 andro as my first too, in hindsight, I would add dermacrine in fo sho!
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Dermacrine could definitely help. Other than that looks good. I am a big fan of andros. Very keepable gains without most of the sides associated with the harder orals.
 
It is good that we have acces to this, but when i got to some sites that sell it and look at the pct, cycle protection plus the product itself it seems like real gear is cheaper? I did one cycle of hi tehch 1-andro and 1-test and found it to work well though
 
Thanks guys, it's not exactly my first cycle, but all I've run before is 11-oxo, 11keto, and epiandro. I know real gear is cheaper. I just picked up some dermacrine, but I wanted to make sure I had myself covered health wise.
 
dvw said:
That's a good mild cycle for sure! 60 days at those dosages should result in a nice recomp. I've gained 8 lbs in 8 weeks running 1 dhea @ 440 mg. No gain in fat. Although lethargy is going to kick in hard at 30 days. Dermacrine or transdermal 4 dhea does the trick
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Thats mega gains and blows the likes of Ostarine and maybe even Lgd 4033 out the water and low sides.

Did you reduce BF% on it??

I might chose 1 andro instead of Lgd now with dermacrine and Cardarine.
 
I didn't lose any body fat I don't think. Now as far as lgd 4033 gainz not so much. I gained alot more weight using lgd 4033 in 60 days. But it was alot more water probably. 1 dhea is very underrated. Good stuff
 
Sorry to bump, but I was wondering if anyone had any experience with pct and life insurance testing, I plan on buying life insurance later in the year, like if they would test for serms and how long after finishing tamox is undetectable/ how long it usually takes for cholesterol and enzymes to go back to normal.
 
Anabaholic said:
Sorry to bump, but I was wondering if anyone had any experience with pct and life insurance testing, I plan on buying life insurance later in the year, like if they would test for serms and how long after finishing tamox is undetectable/ how long it usually takes for cholesterol and enzymes to go back to normal.
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I would try to wait at least a few months after taking last dose of anything before taking a test for them. I would get private blood work done before taking that test as well. Not all insurance companies require bloodwork though.
 
30 days after last dosage of tamoxifen you'll be 100% clear. Cholesterol should be back to normal also.
 
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