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13 Weeks to RPS Rawdawg Nats: Herder's PUUUGHE Comeback

rob112 said:
Gym scales are like ****ty relationships; they **** with people's heads until they feel dependent on them lol.
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Agree!!! I've never stepped on a gym scale and never will!!!
 
Only if you are weak enough mentally to become dependent on a number. I for one enjoy monitoring my progress. If mass gains and strength gains come at the same time I'm on the right track.
 
CountryLiftin said:
Only if you are weak enough mentally to become dependent on a number. I for one enjoy monitoring my progress. If mass gains and strength gains come at the same time I'm on the right track.
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We are referring to the fact they put those numbers up on purpose as a scam for the avid weightloss concerned individual.

I weigh myself at least weekly at home. 211.4 today :)
 
I can almost guarantee that many gyms adjust their scales throughout the month. High in the beginning and gradually lower throughout the month. Keeps customers motivated, and then when the new month begins, they think they had a setback, just so they don't think they don't need the gym anymore.
 
herderdude said:
I can almost guarantee that many gyms adjust their scales throughout the month. High in the beginning and gradually lower throughout the month. Keeps customers motivated, and then when the new month begins, they think they had a setback, just so they don't think they don't need the gym anymore.
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Lol I wouldn't doubt it. Mine is a mom and pop gym and I'm not sure if their smart enough to do that lol. It's just so confusing for someone like me .
Like do I have some safety room or am I over 181? Who the fark knows. I guess it's time to buy my own nice scale.
 
rob112 said:
We are referring to the fact they put those numbers up on purpose as a scam for the avid weightloss concerned individual.

I weigh myself at least weekly at home. 211.4 today :)
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You bastard. You got 6-7 more pounds to gain broski
 
Sorry rob I just read the last few posts. Wasn't trying to be critical. I know that neither of my gyms adjust the scales but I wouldn't put it beyond some commercial gyms.
 
CountryLiftin said:
Sorry rob I just read the last few posts. Wasn't trying to be critical. I know that neither of my gyms adjust the scales but I wouldn't put it beyond some commercial gyms.
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Commercial gyms are all money based; that's what I was geared at. All good homie.
 
It's very cut and dried. If you're not stepping on a certified $600 tanita wrestling scale or a calibrated doctor's sliding scale (I have one of these), you don't know how much you weigh. You have a general idea that could be close or not very close, but you don't actually know for sure.
 
herderdude said:
It's very cut and dried. If you're not stepping on a certified $600 tanita wrestling scale or a calibrated doctor's sliding scale (I have one of these), you don't know how much you weigh. You have a general idea that could be close or not very close, but you don't actually know for sure.
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Gym scale is the doctors old school type where you slide the jawn over
 
herderdude said:
It's very cut and dried. If you're not stepping on a certified $600 tanita wrestling scale or a calibrated doctor's sliding scale (I have one of these), you don't know how much you weigh. You have a general idea that could be close or not very close, but you don't actually know for sure.
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We have 2 sliding scales at home gym but I am sure they are far from calibrated. And one digital at the school which is pretty good quality but I would always want something better for a meet. IMO the changes in weight are more important that the number itself for training.
 
smoker145 said:
Gym scale is the doctors old school type where you slide the jawn over
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Yeah, those can be good or bad. You have to stay on top of their maintenance for them to remain accurate (they are also easy to adjust :)
 
herderdude said:
Yeah, those can be good or bad. You have to stay on top of their maintenance for them to remain accurate (they are also easy to adjust :)
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Gotcha. So is buying a home electronic scale a hof idea or a waste of time and $?
 
smoker145 said:
Gotcha. So is buying a home electronic scale a hof idea or a waste of time and $?
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Somewhere in between. Really cheap scales won't read the same twice, so spend a little to make sure it's at least consistent. Once that occurs, find a good, consistent scale and compare the two. Once you know how far off your home scale is, you're g2g. If you don't step on the scale often, then don't buy one. I personally step on the scale at least once a day, just a wrestling habit, it takes awhile to get used to the natural fluctuations of weight that your body goes through. I had to mitigate those when I wrestled, but you learn to accept them once you're only making weight 4-5 times a year.
 
Buy your own reliable scale, get on a calibrated scale after weighing and then remember the difference.
 
The scale at my doctor's office is different from mines as well. Every time I have an appointment and have to weigh in, I close my eyes. A five lb difference is a mind fck for someone with weight issues.
 
Horrible day of training today. I had a personal training gig spring up on me about 15min before I started my session. It's easy to tweak a powerlifter's squat, it is an entirely different animal to try to fix your mother's squat. She benched, maybe five sets, a few with the bar, worked up to 85lbs for two before she laughed at me telling her to press the weight fast. This will be quite the challenge.

I was scheduled for heavy bench today. My biceps tendon was having none of it. I managed to hit my comp benches touch and go, had to move my hands back to where they were before this training cycle and use a suicide grip. Decided to slingshot up for set #3, and I increased the weight to counteract that.

Bench
315x2x2
Add reactive slingshot
345x3

And that's enough of that. I think it's time to take some anti inflammatories, squat with the SSB, and find a better way to take care of this sucker. I'd hate to have to take a token bench at the meet.
 
smoker145 said:
What do yu mean token? I don't this
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A token lift is an easy lift you take in the course of a meet to get you on through to the other lifts. Like say your knee is all jacked up and your squats are ass because of it but it doesn't effect your bench and deadlift. You go in and hit an easy squat to get in the meet, then go balls out on bench and deadlift. Or in my case, I'd hit my normal squats, come in and open on bench at like 275, don't take a second or third bench, and then hit my normal deadlifts.
 
A good example of token lifts would be this video of Benni Magnusson.

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I know that this is one of the greatest all time full-power feats of strength, but look at how easy his squat and bench are. There is no video evidence to be found of this guy straining under a squat or bench press.
 
So I've formulated my plan. One to two weeks off of any pressing. All squats with the SSB until my last session. Stretch the bicep, do light biceps curls every day. All heavy efforts on bench until the meet will be slingshotted. And just get the best bench I can get on meet day.

I really want to PR on all three lifts, and I know my bench is getting stronger, but I don't think my body will be ready to show off my new pressing strength in 5 weeks. The way I see it, I can still hit a 1435 total with a 565/335/535 day, and I think I can easily hit or exceed those squat and deadlift numbers the way training has been going.
 
DB preacher curls have really helped me to stretch the biceps tendon. Invalid Link Removed have helped me immensely.
 
Maybe just light bench man to get some blood flowing no? And I think skipping ohp is a great idea. Rest up them shoulders.
 
Here are my benches on the day:

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Rodja said:
DB preacher curls have really helped me to stretch the biceps tendon. Invalid Link Removed have helped me immensely.
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That's a brilliant freaking idea. Here I am hammering away on bb curls to stretch my bicep tendon, and I'm totally neglecting the best bicep stretching exercise out there. Good call. Have yet to check the link, will do now.

EDIT: I have the slingshot sleeves but they seem to be stretching at an alarming rate. They were excellent at first, but now they're not even close to as tight as I need them. I used to do that with wrist wraps but it's like the product description says, the velcro just isn't right.
 
herderdude said:
That's a brilliant freaking idea. Here I am hammering away on bb curls to stretch my bicep tendon, and I'm totally neglecting the best bicep stretching exercise out there. Good call. Have yet to check the link, will do now.

EDIT: I have the slingshot sleeves but they seem to be stretching at an alarming rate. They were excellent at first, but now they're not even close to as tight as I need them. I used to do that with wrist wraps but it's like the product description says, the velcro just isn't right.
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They're technically for the forearm, but I use them at the origin of the biceps.
 
Rodja said:
I'm the opposite; don't skip OHP at all. Even if it's 95#, keep doing them.
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Shoulder health for me has improved when I have done them, but I think it's a good idea to skip ohp every 3-4 weeks for me at least. I feel better
 
Rodja said:
They're technically for the forearm, but I use them at the origin of the biceps.
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Hey, anything to throw me some slack. Maybe I'll try my sleeves up there.
 
On the bright side, now that I watch the videos, those moved pretty fast.
 
smoker145 said:
Shoulder health for me has improved when I have done them, but I think it's a good idea to skip ohp every 3-4 weeks for me at least. I feel better
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It sounds more like you need a deload week as opposed to skipping it altogether.

herderdude said:
Hey, anything to throw me some slack. Maybe I'll try my sleeves up there.
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My issue is that I have adhesions and (I think) some calcium in the area from years of grappling. It causes my biceps tendon to de-track slightly and the compression keeps it in the right track.
 
I liked em. Sounds like you have a decent plan. 5 weeks sounds short, and kinda is, but there's still plenty of time to gain back shoulder health.

Are there any of us that aren't in some sort of pain? lol
 
Sean1332 said:
I liked em. Sounds like you have a decent plan. 5 weeks sounds short, and kinda is, but there's still plenty of time to gain back shoulder health.

Are there any of us that aren't in some sort of pain? lol
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If you're not beat up, then you're not a powerlifter. Even puccah8808 is starting to complain of some pain.
 
Sean1332 said:
I liked em. Sounds like you have a decent plan. 5 weeks sounds short, and kinda is, but there's still plenty of time to gain back shoulder health.

Are there any of us that aren't in some sort of pain? lol
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I had 2 days pain free last week of everything.then I hurt my back... It was fun while it lasted
 
Rodja - yea I hear what your saying. One way I tend to think now a days is if I have to skip a workout day in a week due to schedule, it's ohp. I should start to try and get direct work in every week thou.

U right
 
Sean1332 said:
I read this as I buy my arctic sports balm from EFS for 40% off

I haven't heard jimbuick complain about anything yet....lucky mother ****er
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Bro, I complain about my knees all the time.

And the occasional, transient, bicep issues along with even less frequent RC issues.

Its all about that smart prehab, and not sumo pulling.
 
Sean1332 said:
I read this as I buy my arctic sports balm from EFS for 40% off

I haven't heard @Invalid Link Removed complain about anything yet....lucky mother ****er
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I think I recall him mentioning an injury at some point at our meet in August, but I might have been delusional from the heat.
 
jimbuick said:
Bro, I complain about my knees all the time. And the occasional, transient, bicep issues along with even less frequent RC issues. Its all about that smart prehab, and not sumo pulling.
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Oh ya, I forgot about the knees. Nevermind. You're still cool.

I'd rather sumo pull than jump out of an airplane..
 
Sean1332 said:
I think the best is when she's in the videos to spot/watch him
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I've had the privilege of mommaHerder videotaping my sets. Unfortunately, I failed, I hope she can still look me in the eyes.
 
Sean1332 said:
Oh ya, I forgot about the knees. Nevermind. You're still cool.

I'd rather sumo pull than jump out of an airplane..
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Lol, hell I even strained both biceps the week before the NAS competition.


I'd rather do neither, the former because I suck at it and the latter because **** that.
 
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