Unanswered 10mg vs 20mg superdrol should I do it?

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Sorry to derail , but do you guys experience Gyno on sd or dmz? I’ve researched the two and it seems like rebound Gyno can happen. If so , how long after discontinuing and how do you guys battle it. Kind of weird that it’s dry but can do this. Can it accompany water retention ?
DMZ is not dry from my understanding, SD is though.
 
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I’m currently on 24mg sdrol a day and only day 3 and already 4lbs heavier!! I’m going to add testosterone prop in a 2 weeks once I start feeling **** :) QUESTION: if I run testosterone p for 10 weeks u think my liver will be recovered for a dbol/tbol finish? Only 30mg dbol day final 4 weeks To give extra stre at end or go with var?
 
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This is my third sdrol cycle and I’ve used tudca first cycle and found it to stop the heartburn acid feeling, appetite is a fker on sdrol but I just go in robot mode an eat and swallow when not hungry and when you do that and drink LOADS of water you feel so much better on sdrol. I drink 4 litres mineral water every day
 
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I’m currently on 24mg sdrol a day and only day 3 and already 4lbs heavier!! I’m going to add testosterone prop in a 2 weeks once I start feeling **** :) QUESTION: if I run testosterone p for 10 weeks u think my liver will be recovered for a dbol/tbol finish? Only 30mg dbol day final 4 weeks To give extra stre at end or go with var?
4 pounds? Is that with a diet change? Or is the only change adding sd? That’s amazing
 

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Ah, my apologies. I thought they were both very similar in terms of gains but sd was just stronger
I don’t have any experience with DMZ but I hear a lot of ppl get bloated on it, I think it’s M-Sten you’re thinking of which act similar to SD but not as strong. I will start SD next week, I like SD a lot.
 
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I don’t have any experience with DMZ but I hear a lot of ppl get bloated on it, I think it’s M-Sten you’re thinking of which act similar to SD but not as strong. I will start SD next week, I like SD a lot.
Ah okay. I was under the impression it was almost like a type of sd “clone”. Sd seems awesome . I wonder how it would be with primo? I plan on starting my first soon but I think I’ll save sd for later on in my journey.

how harsh is it for you?
 
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I don’t have any experience with DMZ but I hear a lot of ppl get bloated on it, I think it’s M-Sten you’re thinking of which act similar to SD but not as strong. I will start SD next week, I like SD a lot.
I’m assuming it won’t be radians brand you will be using haha. Is it an over the counter brand or UGL you are going with??
 

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I've read orals are best taken on an empty stomach because they bind to fat in food and pass through the body without being used. Having taken orals mostly pre workout I'm always taking a pre workout supplement on top of creatine nitrate pills and then consuming about 15 g BCAA'S intra and post workout (post is just what I don't drink finish when I'm training. I've never tried it but does anyone think that taking 40mg omeprazole shortly before taking pre workout orals would Interfere with the bodies ability to use the orals? I ask because as so.eone with a weak stomach my ear, nose and throat Dr. Has put me on 40mg omeprazole divided in two doses throughout the day and it really seems to help with any sour stomach from the aminos, pre.workout and high sugar drink I consume during and after my workout. To finish it off I take between 5 and 10iu of.humulin-R immediately post workout depending on if I had enough carbs in me to take 2 or 3iu preworkout. I think the huge pump it provides helps my muscles act like cushions which reduces the stain on the ligaments. I.claim no expertise in this area and.as.a.powerlifter I was hoping some of the bodybuilders who know a lot more about diet and drugs would give me some.inight as to.what I'm doing.right as.well.as.what I can improve. Thank you.for.your.tim÷÷
 
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my twin bro has just started rohm labs MST which is 25mg sdrol and 25mg Winnie hes adding test e instead of prop seems very high mg per tab n they tiny too anyone used rohm labs orals here before?
 
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my twin bro has just started rohm labs MST which is 25mg sdrol and 25mg Winnie hes adding test e instead of prop seems very high mg per tab n they tiny too anyone used rohm labs orals here before?
I don't think I've ever used ROHM, but that one sounds pretty harsh, if it's legit.
 

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Ah, my apologies. I thought they were both very similar in terms of gains but sd was just stronger
well, SD and DMZ are similar in that DMZ is actually two sd molecules with an azin bond, thus the name. And DMZ doesnt aromatize, so it’s “dry” from an estrogenic standpoint but... DMZ causes a lot of water retention because of how glycogen hungry it is. Granted, sd is glycogen hungry too, so I’m not sure why DMZ causes the bloat and sd doesn’t. But the gains on DMZ are definitely of the wet variety.
 
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Sorry to derail , but do you guys experience Gyno on sd or dmz? I’ve researched the two and it seems like rebound Gyno can happen. If so , how long after discontinuing and how do you guys battle it. Kind of weird that it’s dry but can do this. Can it accompany water retention ?
Rebound gyno from SD.
Letro/Nolva combo worked great.
But as I learn more: Ralox/Exem would have been even better
 

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I’m assuming it won’t be radians brand you will be using haha. Is it an over the counter brand or UGL you are going with??
lol, no, definitely not! It’s a local guy that have some that seems good, last time I took his SD I saw body changes over night!
 

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how harsh is it for you?
well, I feel great, what gets me is the cramps and pumps I get, can’t run further than a mile because of the quad&calves pumps... but the “look” you get from it so something addicting... 😬
 
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well, I feel great, what gets me is the cramps and pumps I get, can’t run further than a mile because of the quad&calves pumps... but the “look” you get from it so something addicting...
I would go a step further and say it’s the most toxic and life-crippling substance I’ve used.
It’s horrible and beautiful all at the same time. I’ve never looked the best I’ve ever looked yet felt like I have the plague simultaneously.
 
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well, I feel great, what gets me is the cramps and pumps I get, can’t run further than a mile because of the quad&calves pumps... but the “look” you get from it so something addicting...
I’ve had people stop at the gym and ask me if I was having a heart attack and needed help from back pumps after a seat of rows. I’ve had pumps on everything, but SD back pumps are on a different level.
 

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I’ve had people stop at the gym and ask me if I was having a heart attack and needed help from back pumps after a seat of rows. I’ve had pumps on everything, but SD back pumps are on a different level.
Yes, you’re right, it sucks :( Why is that btw, why do we get that insane pump in the lower back?
 
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Yes, you’re right, it sucks :( Why is that btw, why do we get that insane pump in the lower back?
One of these nerds around here knows. I just know they happen.
I imagine with carb partitioning it pulls more fluid along with it, giving a constant pump even without intense stimuli. But I pulled that from my ass, no clue.
 
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One of these nerds around here knows. I just know they happen.
I imagine with carb partitioning it pulls more fluid along with it, giving a constant pump even without intense stimuli. But I pulled that from my ass, no clue.
Lmfao. Best response ever! Yeah adrol got my back pumping real hard on max lower days, even with taurine and potassium. Worst I ever had was when I was young and dumber, one of my first hdrol cycles. Went on a big hike, hungover, light weight on my back (25-30 lbs), wanted to die.
 

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Last little update 8 days after I stopped SD just to show where I’m at. I’m not the type to add up a lot of water weight but surprisingly haven’t lost a single pound. Actually gained 1.
what brand?
 
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Last little update 8 days after I stopped SD just to show where I’m at. I’m not the type to add up a lot of water weight but surprisingly haven’t lost a single pound. Actually gained 1.
Guess thats why is SD so popular and effective! Looking real solid man!
 
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Last little update 8 days after I stopped SD just to show where I’m at. I’m not the type to add up a lot of water weight but surprisingly haven’t lost a single pound. Actually gained 1.
What all are you taking now?
 
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SD is so generous to delts and traps. They are popping right now brother. Your shoulders look instantly way bigger after that short run. Love that terrible stuff
 
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Thank you all :) time to chill out for a couple months before I go crazy. I’m thinking about competing too in a year or so because of you matt.. just thinking about it for now. Not sure I have what it takes but I might do it for fun
 
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Thank you all time to chill out for a couple months before I go crazy. I’m thinking about competing too in a year or so because of you matt.. just thinking about it for now. Not sure I have what it takes but I might do it for fun
Oh I don’t at all. The thing with entry level MP, CP, and light open bb’ing is anyone can do it, just have to do a proper prep and get all fat off so you can see everything. I’ve seen guys win a local show with horrible genetics and nowhere near the size you or even I have. Gotta pay a pro, I’ve tried to read for 6 years how to do it coach-less and I ended up coming to the realization you HAVE to have someone that’s competed 20 times to train you to do it. Zoo’s recent comp log showed me how impressive a good prep can be.
 
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Damn this thread is making me want to start running my Inj SD right now. But I have to wait a bit longer

Prob gonna start off on 4mg Ed then 8 and maybe bump to 12. It’s inj so it should work a lot faster, don’t want to go ripping heads off because I took 20mg to start lol
 
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I don’t have any experience with DMZ but I hear a lot of ppl get bloated on it, I think it’s M-Sten you’re thinking of which act similar to SD but not as strong. I will start SD next week, I like SD a lot.
Aren't you the same competitive kickboxer telling me not to bulk at all if I'm starting kickboxing? You do realize the only purpose of SD is for bulking, right? Or are you just trying to use it to increase cardio? lol
 

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Aren't you the same competitive kickboxer telling me not to bulk at all if I'm starting kickboxing? You do realize the only purpose of SD is for bulking, right? Or are you just trying to use it to increase cardio? lol
lol, SD’s only purpose is to bulk?! Where did you get that from, Planet Fitness? No, I never said to not bulk, I said that cardio is more important than weights for fight training, it was only a friendly advice, you do as you want.

Btw my last fight was 4 yrs ago and no, I would not use SD for fighting, even if it was allowed in competition.
 
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lol, SD’s only purpose is to bulk?! Where did you get that from, Planet Fitness? No, I never said to not bulk, I said that cardio is more important than weights for fight training, it was only a friendly advice, you do as you want.

Btw my last fight was 4 yrs ago and no, I would not use SD for fighting, even if it was allowed in competition.
Yeah, it's only purpose is to bulk – that's from common sense. It's insane to even consider SD for a cut. It'd be like using hand grenades to go fishing. Major overkill, plus SD shines with an excess of carbs. But hey if you wanna take one of the harshest oral steroids that exists, just for a cut, then suit yourself.

 
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Aren't you the same competitive kickboxer telling me not to bulk at all if I'm starting kickboxing? You do realize the only purpose of SD is for bulking, right? Or are you just trying to use it to increase cardio? lol
The only purpose for sd is bulking??? What! You can use any steroid for any goal. Bulking and cutting is diet
 
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Try superdrol on maitnence calories or slight defiect with carbs high and get ready for the most insane recomp you have ever seen
 
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The appetite suppressant part of 20+ would be ideal for a calorie deficit, that’s for sure.
 

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Ive chosen not to use var or winny anymore. Ive been pretty much sticking to sdrol or adrol for an oral. So Ive used sdrol in a deficit.

No, youre probably not getting the most out of sdrol in a deficit, its not its "ideal" environment. But, its cheap, and fuk me the psychological motivation of still looking full and the almost immediate vascularity is priceless when dropping the carbs. So thats part of my own justification.
 
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Ive chosen not to use var or winny anymore. Ive been pretty much sticking to sdrol or adrol for an oral. So Ive used sdrol in a deficit.

No, youre probably not getting the most out of sdrol in a deficit, its not its "ideal" environment. But, its cheap, and fuk me the psychological motivation of still looking full and the almost immediate vascularity is priceless when dropping the carbs. So thats part of my own justification.
Why no winny of Var? That’s like all I will run now a days
 

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Why no winny of Var? That’s like all I will run now a days
Ugh, they seem to cause some prostate inflammation with me. Id love to have them as an option but on the plus side the trade-off is I get little in the way of sides on sdrol or adrol.
 
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Ugh, they seem to cause some prostate inflammation with me. Id love to have them as an option but on the plus side the trade-off is I get little in the way of sides on sdrol or adrol.
Ya. I’m reckless with my prostate. It’s coming for me too. Maybe some Saw Palmetto too? I should get on board with supplementation if it does help
 
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Ya. I’m reckless with my prostate. It’s coming for me too. Maybe some Saw Palmetto too? I should get on board with supplementation if it does help
Sooooo..... Sarms are supposed to have a positive effect on prostate, at low doses too. Just some broscience thinking but for future oral use I was thinking of running gw at 10mg and 5mg of rad along side the harsher stuff. Any thoughts on that?
 

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SARMs have a positive effect on prostate? Never heard that. Positive, as in reduce inflammation?
 
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The only purpose for sd is bulking??? What! You can use any steroid for any goal. Bulking and cutting is diet
It’s overkill for cutting. Why would you take pretty much the strongest thing out there for a cut? Why put your body through that for a reduced amount of gains and burn out your AR receptors while you’re at it. Save the SD for bulking if you want to cycle intelligently, and want it to shine. This is all common sense.
 

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