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  1. justeat

    GW 50156 “non cardio” based Benefits

    Good question. It’s water soluble right? So bac water and just raw carnitine powder?
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    GW 50156 “non cardio” based Benefits

    That’s what I figured in terms of squeezing more out per set. I already go pretty hard so the cardiovascular limits are hurting me at some points. I’ve looked into carnitine a few times. It always bothered me how much it costs for a simple amino acid. Smont- what doses have you run the...
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    GW 50156 “non cardio” based Benefits

    I’m fairly familiar with this compound and its uses/benefits. Almost all of the discussions on forums relate to its uses for cardio. I do cardio in smaller amounts and welcome whatever benefits it brings. HOWEVER- I am really interested in hearing any benefits it offers in relation to weight...
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    Post GH cycle…

    This is really what I was hoping to hear lol. My one fiend has been on 5iu of pharma Serostim for like 4/5 years and you can tell his ears and nose have grown a bit. Nothing crazy, but you can see it when looking for it. Also, the bones in his elbow have DEF grown and protract outwards a bit-...
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    Post GH cycle…

    what about sides like elf or nose, ear growth? Granted I’m on a lower dose I have friends who have been on for years and they DEF have these effects…. Also, is there any definitive answers on recovery for producing endogenous growth after a cycle?
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    Post GH cycle…

    About to wrap up a 10 month run of gh at 2-3iu per day (6 days a week). Im imagining upon cessation of exogenous GH your body must go through some type of recovery where you’re natural GH is somewhat shutdown. Unlike pct for anabolics, there is no standard pct regimen for post gh- if this is in...
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    GH with insulin=good, yet administer GH when levels are low???

    I’ve been using it at 2.5iu. 3 months at 2iu then the next 3 months at 2.5iu. Not a whole lot of theory here, it’s just what I did. I’ve always preferred smaller doses. I get great fat loss and some minimal other benefits probably. I’ve run it higher but didn’t really see much more. From...
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    GH with insulin=good, yet administer GH when levels are low???

    I really appreciate the thought out response dude. Luckily my weeks worth of researching has led me to most of these same conclusions and understanding. My plan as of after Xmas is to get a glucose meter and start testing my morning fasting levels. At this point I’m only using 2iu growth a...
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    GH with insulin=good, yet administer GH when levels are low???

    Thanks. The evening slin shot isn’t planned so much to work overnight as it is to be post workout and pwo meal- since I work out at night. Question though- if blood sugar usually drops to resting rate at about 2 hours post meal, and rapid insulin lasts about 2 hours, wouldn’t that be ok for...
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    GH with insulin=good, yet administer GH when levels are low???

    Ok, makes sense. Thanks. And this is where finding the proper dose of slin comes into play, as I understand too much insulin will not only make you hypo but can also cause fat gain as well? The appropriate dose will max out glycogen stores in muscles. I’m thinking of using a fast acting...
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    GH with insulin=good, yet administer GH when levels are low???

    Aka is the extra injected insulin in this scenario only necessary when carb intake is extra high? Or would natural insulin from the meal still have that anabolic affect providing carb intake isn’t through the roof (say 75-100g carb With post workout/pre bed meal.
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    GH with insulin=good, yet administer GH when levels are low???

    Yes, but to go off your last sentence… eating before bed with a meal-with insulin-. My question is would the the natural insulin response from that meal cause a similiar anabolic affect as eating that same meal with injected insulin? Obviously not to the same degree, and assuming my carb...
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    GH with insulin=good, yet administer GH when levels are low???

    New question here: so I’ve finally started getting the full idea on my original question- that carbs are avoided around gh shots so as to not interfere with fat loss. Carbs present (along with insulin) doesn’t stop gh from working, rather blunts the fat loss effects (bc the sugars aren’t...
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    GH with insulin=good, yet administer GH when levels are low???

    my thoughts exactly, thanks for adding that in. I’ve been kind of split between two ways of going about it-1) doing lantus once in am, conservative dose of maybe 10-15iu (depending on how my blood sugar looks as I start and continue to monitor it). Or 2) use a fast acting insulin in small...
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    GH with insulin=good, yet administer GH when levels are low???

    Cool. Thanks again man. I figured the danger arises when ppl mess up, at low doses it can’t be too bad as long as you pay halfway attention to your body.
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    GH with insulin=good, yet administer GH when levels are low???

    Yep, always going too deep thought wise. For the most part though you’ve ironed out the things I was wondering about. ultimately I’m going to switch from bedtime dosing to post workout dosing since other then wake up that’s the only time I’m close to fasted. Plus I do a 2 mile walk post...
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    GH with insulin=good, yet administer GH when levels are low???

    ok that makes a lot more sense. So the idea of gh on an empty stomach is really just for a fat loss objective. So if I were doing my gh at night before bed- which utlimately is after 2 big meals, it’s not “getting canceled out” or anything. It’s just more so having an anabolic effect rather...
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    GH with insulin=good, yet administer GH when levels are low???

    thank you. So the purpose for taking insulin with it is to make up for what’s “not being accomplished” in terms of nutrient shuttling since the gh is lowering the insulin response. We add in insulin to make up for this. My main issue is why we’re told it’s best to take on an empty stomach...
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    GH with insulin=good, yet administer GH when levels are low???

    I’ve read a ton and just have one question that is preventing me from tying all my info up into a well understood and useable form. It’s recommended to take your Gh shot a good deal of time before and after a meal, obviously so that your blood sugar levels are relatively low. Based on my...
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    PIP/ Inflammation affecting Absorption?

    I was thinking of venting a bottle and heating it a bit. I there’s no crashing at all, the bottle looks fine so I know it may not be the right route, but I’m really just experimenting here. My last shot in the glute was perfect. I massaged the muscle for a bit before, and left the loaded pin...
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