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  1. BLOODWORK

    hey everyone just got bloodwork done friday. Note i have not used any PH/DS since august(mithras). I am not very knowledgeable when it comes to these numbers but i do know that it shows good cholesterol is down bad cholesterol is up, and liver enzymes are high. I have a feeling that my diet is a...
  2. more maintainable gains. Superdrol or Alpha one??

    just wondering based on people's experiences for those who have used both superdrol and alpha one which one were able to hold on the most most size after PCT. i understand there are several other factors including diet, hormonal recover, training, etc.. but im tallking solely based on the 2...
  3. stacking superdrol with SDMZ 2.0

    Hey everyone. i'm currently cutting natty, started the cut at 215, will probably get down to around 200. Starting in july i'm going to start my lean bulk. I have been back and forth on whether to run superdrol or super dmz 2.0 for the lean bulk so i figured why not get the best of both. i...
  4. superdrol, SDMZ 2.0, hepatoxicity, shutdown.

    sup everyone. Title says it all. If you were comparing 2 caps of super dmz 2.0 per day (20 mg msten, 20 mg dmz) vs 20 mg of superdrol per day, which should cause more liver toxicity if keeping the same dosage throughout 4 weeks? also at these dosages which should cause more disruption to the...
  5. stanodrol vs proviron

    for those of you who have used both, which one was more effective and better for hardness, dryness, leanness and vascularity? which one is more androgenic and nature and will cause more of these positive effects? thanks guys
  6. Which causes more shutdown?

    soley in terms of shutdown and the amount of your bodies own endogenous test being dropped by the use of an oral androgen, which one is more likely to cause i higher degree of shutdown. Superdrol or Super dmz 2.0. i realize everyone is different just wondering which one on paper should cause...
  7. DMZ/EPI STACK

    sup everyone. i was originally planning on running my first ever bottle of super dmz 2.0 this summer but am starting to think twice. I have 3 total cycles under my belt, hdrol, dymethazine, and msten. i loved dymethazine can't say enough about it, with msten i didn't gain any strength at all, if...
  8. Best AI to use as part of PCT??

    whats up everyone. its 5 weeks after i finished my msten cycle using 4 weeks of torem and daa for PCT. i started erase starting week 3 of PCT and am still on it, but my nipples are wicked puffy. No its not gyno, theres no sensitivity or lumps, theyre just real puffy and somewhat pointy. This...
  9. once and for all: superdrol vs super dmz 2.0

    i know this has obviously been discussed before, just wanted to get some more feedback from people that have used both. It has come to be a general understanding that superdrol is little harder on sides but solely in terms of effectiveness which should yield better results? which one gives more...
  10. using melanotan II with prohormones

    sup guys. i'm a newbie to melanotan II. Ive heard some great things about and am going to be running it during the summer with my cutting cycle. As i said this will be my first time using it so i have a few questions. I found a trusted site where i bought 3 30 mg vials for 98 bucks. 1. ive read...
  11. day 9 on msten. haven't seen one ounce of strength gain.

    day 9 on msten. haven't seen one ounce of strength gain. on day 9 of BFN mass trauma 20 mgs and so far im not impressed at all. i'm not exaggerating when i say i haven't made any strength gains in any lift. i actually felt weaker the last couple workouts. i am up 3 pounds, def water weight...
  12. How long did it take for msten to kick in for you guys?

    i'm on day 5 of mass trauma 20 mgs. i know its still early yet but i haven't noticed any size or strength yet. today's workout actually sucked. did chest and bi's and i couldn't get 130 lb dumbells up off my chest when i can normally get 5-7 actually felt real weak today. I do look fuller and...
  13. Bloating on PH's that don't aromatize

    ive been on mass trauma(msten) for 2 days now. So far i feel amazing and ive had awesome pumps and very little soreness in the 2 workouts that ive had on it but ever since i started i get a wicked bloat/ protrude in my stomach. i can't tell if it is this or maybe cycle assist because it seems...
  14. msten dosage- too many contradicting opinions(help)

    whats up everyone. in 10 days i will be starting my mass trauma(msten) cycle. Caps are at 4 mgs a piece. Ive heard so many different responses of people saying msten is so potent that it shouldn't be ran over 12 mgs and recommending a 4 week cycle of 8/8/12/12 and that anything over that would...
  15. running stims on epi

    would it be okay to run stims with epistane? im setting a buddy of mine up with an epistane/11-oxo hardcore cutting cycle. since blood pressure issues are usually associated with phs/ds that cause water retention such as super, msten, dmz, alpha 1, etc.. just wondering if it would be okay to run...
  16. Msten at 20 mgs!!

    sup everyone. i have 2 bottles of mass trauma (msten) at 4 mgs per cap. I am planning a 5 week cycle, soo stoked, and want to work my way up to 20 mgs which would be 5 caps a day. I know i should've waited and got IML msten rx at 10 mgs per cap. my cycle will look like this. 12/12/16/20/20. This...
  17. Anyone tried estrength by galaxy supplements?

    has anyone tried this? i have 2 bottles. each cap contains 10 mgs superdrol and 15mgs cyano. The thing that im wondering about is why it is marketed as a cutting product. It claims are that it is for times when your not worry about size but want to get harder, dense, definition, and vascular...
  18. 11-0XO

    1. Would 11-oxo have any benefit in a bulk or would it only be useful in a cut to mitigate the muscle wasting effects of cortisol during a caloric defecit? 2. Is it strong enough to promote fat loss during a bulk? 3. Would a 6 week 11-oxo ONLY cycle be strong enough to need a SERM? thanks guys
  19. superdrol or msten for better vascularity??

    which one would be better for increasing vascularity in a lean bulk? The reason i ask is because i have both the original super dmz(superdrol & dmz), and 2.0 (msten & dmz). Just trying to decided which one to run over the summer because i want to stay as vascular and hard as possible over the...
  20. Super DMZ (Original Version)

    in a few months i'm planning on running the original super dmz (Superdrol&Dymethazine). Even though its a while away i'm stocking up on my supports, PCT, etc. and getting them out of the way so i don't have to worry about it once my cycle comes. I have done 2 cycles h-drol, and dmz. Both with...
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