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  1. PH cycle during or in place of HCG therapy.

    this is true, thanks. HCG therapy, at least in my case is the same as regular TRT and I can even choose to start that but I am going to give it a few more months as HCG is offering me some positive benefits that Test alone will not. I believe it won't be a problem since we are at a point where I...

  2. PH cycle during or in place of HCG therapy.

    Given my new knowledge that Im not going to worry much about pct or being shutdown and that size is my real goal here, is there a different product that anyone would recommend to me? I have only run a 6 week epistane / havoc before. Some of the PH packs come with the OTC products , would it be...

  3. PH cycle during or in place of HCG therapy.

    Thanks audix2359 - I actually was pretty much thinking that and it makes sense anyways but I need validation because this sort of thing deserves respect that it often isn't given. Thanks for laying that out clearly and I appreciate you taking the time man. In case you were wondering or cared to...

  4. PH cycle during or in place of HCG therapy.

    Gyno being the main concern but I guess because its the norm. Is this unnecessary here?

  5. PH cycle during or in place of HCG therapy.

    Hey guys, I am on HCG sub injections 2000iu 3x - week. I have the HCG and Tamoxifen through valid prescription from an Endo so, I am not worried about pct products. I have low testosterone and I was given HCG in an attempt to bring it up because my doctor doesn't want to use anything but HCG...

  6. Should I quit my havoc cycle early to start TRT?

    I agree with that actually. I have this voice in the back of my head saying not to worry because I'll prob get to the endo and when he tests it, everything will come up normal. Well actually it'd be low from the havoc but after pct and a break I should test just fine I'd think. If you think its...

  7. Should I quit my havoc cycle early to start TRT?

    I sort of agree. My appointment is in 1 month which is enough time for me to finish the havoc and start pct. It makes me wonder if I can do my cycle and get an appointment for 2 months from now or if this is a really serious problem and I need to get in right away. I guess I don't fully...

  8. Should I quit my havoc cycle early to start TRT?

    So you think I should just continue my cycle and run pct then retest? Or should I start pct now and then retest after that? Thanks for the input guys.

  9. Should I quit my havoc cycle early to start TRT?

    I am only 24 years old and I had it taken in the morning at roughly 10am. I had my Test checked 2 years ago and it was 700 something and the Dr. said it was high and to be happy with that number and I haven't taken any supps or ph's or anything other than creatine and mass gainers at all in the...

  10. Should I quit my havoc cycle early to start TRT?

    Hey guys, A few weeks ago I had blood work done to check my thyroid and get a my basic labs done but they weren't testing for test levels as we weren't concerned with that at the time. Since then I started a 6 week havoc cycle and I am just finishing my 2nd week currently at 40mg. It turns out...

  11. low dose nolva and revolution pct enough for havoc cycle?

    Thanks for clearing that up. That makes sense and I will do it that way. Should I start the otc supps 2 weeks after I start serm or wait until serm is completely finished?

  12. low dose nolva and revolution pct enough for havoc cycle?

    Thanks, and good to hear. Should I start all my pct products at once or serm first and otc products 1 or 2 weeks later. I ordered the reduce xt but I was wondering if I should start it sooner than the 3rd week of pct. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

  13. low dose nolva and revolution pct enough for havoc cycle?

    Really? okay then I will probably do that. Its so hard to decide on all this because there's a million conflicting opinions out there. I just want to make sure that I have a solid plan and everything on hand before I start anything at all. Thanks for taking the time to answer my question man!

  14. low dose nolva and revolution pct enough for havoc cycle?

    Hi guys, I'm trying to plan a future havoc cycle and I was wondering if this pct would be okay for a 5-6 week havoc cycle. I would run it like this. CYCLE: Havoc 30/30/40/40/40/40 Cycle Support Liv52 Multi PCT: Nolva 20/20/20/20 Revolution PCT Black and Finaflex Pure Test combo Creatine Multi...

  15. Best PCT money can buy

    I hope I'm not breaking any rules here but I'm not asking for a source or anything. I'm looking into running a similar cycle (epi-havoc). I've never bought a serm online before and I was wondering if someone could tell me an average acceptable price range for nolva? I believe I'd have to buy it...

  16. erase pro, anabeta elite, and revolution pct combo?

    I think I'd like to go with a serm then so that I don't have to even worry. I've never used a serm before though and I honestly don't know where to get it. You think nolva is the best one to go with? Thats another controversial thing that I have been reading lately. Is there anyway that you...

  17. erase pro, anabeta elite, and revolution pct combo?

    I am not actually running a cycle any time soon but I am trying to put together a plan for an otc pct for a future havoc cycle. I've read countless posts saying you need a serm and just as many saying that you do not need a serm and the more I read and prep for this, the more conflicting answers...

  18. Use of ph products to recover from extreme muscle loss?

    I figured that would be the case but no harm in asking. I guess it'll just take a lot longer than I expected to gain again. Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it.

  19. Use of ph products to recover from extreme muscle loss?

    Hi everyone, I looked for answers to the questions I have about my situation however, I didn't find anything that I felt covered what I'm looking for. If this has been answered already then I apologize for this post. I'm going to be very honest and open here so please don't call me an idiot as...

  20. is nolva enough

    Hi I was trying to put together a proper pct for a cycle of m1-4add. I've decided on nolva but is that all I need as a Oct? What else should I need? Thanx guys
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