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  1. Answered Epistane without PCT (Doctor suggestion)

    I don't think this is scientifically correct. Test is produced and then inhibited by several downstream products, if thats what you mean by pulsatile. The only other thing rhythmic/pulsatile about testosterone is related to the circadian rhythm, sleep cycles, etc. This involves different...
  2. Answered Epistane without PCT (Doctor suggestion)

    Thank you. I think I see the discrepancy. One community emphasizes re-establishing homeostasis/health. The other emphasizes doing it efficiently because gainz (the reason why we do it in the first place). It is therefore NOT the lack of knowledge of any party, but instead, different goals. With...
  3. Answered Epistane without PCT (Doctor suggestion)

    This puzzle piece doesn't fit. For exogenous products, at any level, to completely shut down any pathway, that would contradict Michaelis-Menten kinetics (pharmacokinetic concept). There would be no such thing as dose-dependency and enzyme/receptor saturation. Tapering down follows these...
  4. Answered Epistane without PCT (Doctor suggestion)

    Its likely that the doc Thanks for the response. Can you elaborate on why it does not work physiologically then? From my doctorate in Physical Therapy and masters in Biophysics, we are well educated on systems such as the endocrine system and tapering/decreasing the negative feedback makes...
  5. Answered Epistane without PCT (Doctor suggestion)

    One again, im not saying the bodybuilding community is wrong. I personally use PCT. im just saying: 1) doctors KNOW what they are talking about. 10 years of studying organ systems and pharmacology, followed by 5 years of residency is more "real world experience " than any of us will ever get. I...
  6. Answered Epistane without PCT (Doctor suggestion)

    I see. That's basically the root of my question. Maybe you can get off of it without PCT for health reasons, you need to do it with PCT to keep up your gains.
  7. Answered Epistane without PCT (Doctor suggestion)

    Update: I talked to a THIRD doctor about this topic this morning. So far, all 3 have said cutting off exogenous test WITHOUT PCT with AI/SERM is fine (especially in the younrg and healthy population). They work in different clinics and trained at different places so its not like they all...
  8. Answered Epistane without PCT (Doctor suggestion)

    By re-sensitize, i mean that the degree of negative feedback is dependent on the amount of exogenous hormone you take. If you taper down, your body will have less of a negative feedback, therefore the natural production will be less inhibited. Im not saying the cycle/pct routine is incorrect, I...
  9. Answered Epistane without PCT (Doctor suggestion)

    Physiologically and biochemically, it makes sense that your body is able reset on its own if you taper down test, allowing your receptors to slowly resensitize. Is the only bad thing about going this route the extra time it takes/loss of gains? Another doctor said he would not prescribe...
  10. Answered Epistane without PCT (Doctor suggestion)

    Everyone says we should take epi for 4-6 weeks at 30-50mg. For PCT, use Tamoxifen or Clomid. However, I just had a discussion with a doctor who told me when they administer test, they eventually just wean it off the patients. They said the same idea should apply to using epistane. Thoughts?
  11. Success with Fake Havoc?

    What are symptoms of liver damage?
  12. Success with Fake Havoc?

    Thats my concern. I want to see if anyone had had experience with this so I can decide how to go about the rest of the cycle/pct
  13. Success with Fake Havoc?

    Bottle was different. It was spelled epitio instead epithio. Doesnt have sulfur smell. When i reached out to the ebay seller, he didnt give straight answers.
  14. Success with Fake Havoc?

    Has anyone had success with fake havoc? I have gained several lbs and experienced side effects such as decreased libido. I think it could be some other compound since theres no way placebo could kill my sex drive like this. I am pretty sure my havoc is fake because the bottle is different...
  15. RPN Havoc question.

    Did they have a sulphur smell?
  16. RPN Havoc: Legit Havoc that doesnt smell?

    I recently got impatient and purchased a bottle of RPN Havoc on ebay (stupid I know). I am about 2-3 weeks in and think I see progress. I have put on 4-5 lbs of solid mass. Another reason I think it is working is my libido has dramatically decreased, so something is happening. HOWEVER. I just...
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