Screw cutting...Its time to be HUGE!!!!

bLacKjAck. said:
hey 45, can you list the strength gains you made on cycle?
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Before cycle

275x10 BB flat bench
300x6 BB flat bench
175x10 military press
175x8 close grip bench press
405x2 deads

NOW!!!!

315x10 BB flat bench
335x5 BB flat bench
225x10 Military press
245x10 close grip bench press
475x2 deads

gained 27lbs so far!
 
sdmf45 said:
Before cycle

275x10 BB flat bench
300x6 BB flat bench
175x10 military press
175x8 close grip bench press
405x2 deads

NOW!!!!

315x10 BB flat bench
335x5 BB flat bench
225x10 Military press
245x10 close grip bench press
475x2 deads

gained 27lbs so far!
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Deads are my Fav's...those are some good numbers bro,keep it up,Looks like your cycle is working perfectly..nice....nice
 
my pct is gonna be

toremifene
jungle warfare
retain 2
massfx
x factor

then go to being hyyyuuuuggeee again!
 
I keep reading people putting torem down because it hasn't been "tested." I wonder if you should run a small dose of nolva along side for the first week or two.
 
CryingEmo said:
I keep reading people putting torem down because it hasn't been "tested." I wonder if you should run a small dose of nolva along side for the first week or two.
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i have nolva here too so that might be a good idea. i wanted to try the toremifene cause almost everyone on this board that have used it loved it. but to be safe thats a good idea.

i'm not starting the serm until about 1-2 weeks after my last shot of sustanon.
 
getswole said:
Deads are my Fav's...those are some good numbers bro,keep it up,Looks like your cycle is working perfectly..nice....nice
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thanks bro, i can't wait to see how your end of the world cycle goes.

i know an ifbb pro up here in miami and he does those crazy doses too.
 
My deads pwn everyones. Well not really, but all natty i could pull 505. Then again back/bi's are my strengths. I'd rather having pressing as a strength though.
 
sdmf45 said:
:thumbsup: were gonna need to hook you up on a program!!! SOON! :food:
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I'm working on it............
i got some dbol coming, so i am jsut looking for a stack.

I ahd asked the question in another thread, but someone ignored me (i'm just the little guy, afterall)

which form of test would be best as a starter? and what to stack with dbol?
 
macedaddy said:
I'm working on it............
i got some dbol coming, so i am jsut looking for a stack.

I ahd asked the question in another thread, but someone ignored me (i'm just the little guy, afterall)

which form of test would be best as a starter? and what to stack with dbol?
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alot of ppl say the best test to start with is test E at 500mg/week. the first test i started with was test prop and i loved it. you have to pin that EOD at least and you can do it ED.

if you want to keep it simple then you could just do

dbol + test E or prop

or you could do sustanon i'm just getting off that and it worked real well for me. i did pin that EOD though.

some other cycle suggestions

dbol + test + deca (i think deca is weak but others like it :D)

dbol + test + tren :woohoo:

dbol + test + EQ (garbage but a suggestion)

oh and dbol is the sh*t!!!!!
 
macedaddy said:
which form of test would be best as a starter? and what to stack with dbol?
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Sust/Deca is a classic with dbols.....personally I love Sust...next in line would be Test E...I'm a prop/susp fan too as I love short estered gear,but long esters have there place in a bulk and are much easier for weekly dosing vs. daily which some can't handle well...better for a first cycle

wk 1-10 800mg Sust
wk 1-9 600mg Deca

wk 1-5 30-50mg dbol ed

and you should grow if thats a first cycle...some will say thats too much,I think its perfect,even for someone 175lbs..
 
i'm starting my first cycle soon....

500mg/wk test cyp 1-16
400mg/wk deca 1-14
dbol to kickstart (30-50mg/day weeks 1-6)
MGF 200mcg/day 3 days a week at 4 weeks on 4 weeks off, repeat
IGF 50mcg/day 3 days a week at 4 weeks on 4 weeks off, repeat

i'll be starting a log in a few weeks :) :) :)
 
dsw222 said:
i'm starting my first cycle soon....

500mg/wk test cyp 1-16
400mg/wk deca 1-14
dbol to kickstart (30-50mg/day weeks 1-6)
MGF 200mcg/day 3 days a week at 4 weeks on 4 weeks off, repeat
IGF 50mcg/day 3 days a week at 4 weeks on 4 weeks off, repeat

i'll be starting a log in a few weeks :) :) :)
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looks good bro! what is your starting stats?
 
getswole said:
Me,High doses?...No,No,No.....I always take a subtle approach,you must not have seen my currect cycle:
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yes i have and that further backs my statement lol. I cant believe you are not worried about gyno, it seems at least. Are you just not prone? I would push the doses up but im pretty prone to ***** tits.
 
pistonpump said:
yes i have and that further backs my statement lol. I cant believe you are not worried about gyno, it seems at least. Are you just not prone? I would push the doses up but im pretty prone to ***** tits.
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I'm just as prone as the next guy,I just have quite a few cycles under my belt,I have learned to listen to my nipples,They'll tell you when to Nolv everytime...As funny as that sounds its true though..I've come to just wait for the slightest sign of sensitivity,and if I wake up the next day and its still there...then its time to Nolv for 10days and then Adex` the rest of the cycle....Very Simple/Very Effective....I prefer to avoid them until needed...Plus w/ Adex you never really can tell if your wiping to much estro away,or not quite enough....A little estro makes for a better Bulk,IMO...I said little...its a fine line..A little water retention is good and keeps fluid in the joints,always good when those orals are swellin ya up fast...:twisted:
 
getswole said:
I'm just as prone as the next guy,I just have quite a few cycles under my belt,I have learned to listen to my nipples,They'll tell you when to Nolv everytime...As funny as that sounds its true though..I've come to just wait for the slightest sign of sensitivity,and if I wake up the next day and its still there...then its time to Nolv for 10days and then Adex` the rest of the cycle....Very Simple/Very Effective....I prefer to avoid them until needed...Plus w/ Adex you never really can tell if your wiping to much estro away,or not quite enough....A little estro makes for a better Bulk,IMO...I said little...its a fine line..A little water retention is good and keeps fluid in the joints,always good when those orals are swellin ya up fast...:twisted:
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what he said! :D i played around with the arimidex dose for weeks until i got it right for me. i'm not prone to gyno at all but i wanted a little less water weight than last time. it worked well this time. I do love sust! :twisted:
 
sdmf45 said:
what he said! :D i played around with the arimidex dose for weeks until i got it right for me. i'm not prone to gyno at all but i wanted a little less water weight than last time. it worked well this time. I do love sust! :twisted:
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im sorry but what did you find to be your ideal dose of Arimidex?
 
Question 45... can you max out with dumbells(flat, incline, decline bench) and post your #'s ? I'm curious to see what they'd be comparitively speaking to the straight bar #'s..

thanks
 
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