alright last stack question...swear...please help man.........

bishop17

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alright right now for the last 2 days i've been taking leviathan, paravol, incarnate, krealkyn, and reset, anabolic muscle protein powder, and zma......
Now my question is what do you think about adding

bcaas
powerfull
6oxo xtreme.

does anyone see gyno in my future??...and am i double stacking on **** that does the same thing......
 
I'm not 100% familiar with all the specific supplements listed...

however, I think adding those would be alright,

I would add the BCAA's, and maybe the powerfull, but I would not add the 6oxo...stacking too many supplements can be overkill and you won't know what supp is doing what, I prefer to only stack 2-3 at a time (at most)

maybe after your done with the leviathan, paravol, incarnate, krealkyn, and reset...u can do a 6oxo and powerfull stack...
 
as far as the incarnate is concerned its only been my second day....to be honest i can't tell anything yet except for a tingling sensation up and down my arms...but I heard it takes about a week and a half to get going.......and thats a great idea about the powerfull and 6oxo...do you htink I'm overkilling right now??..and to be honest I just want to gain so bad that i don't care which one is doing what
 
thats what i was thinking..see people tell me different things all the time man thats why i gotta ask two or three times...thewy told me it would only cut fat which i don't mind
 
yea u dont need anything like that to cut fat. ur better off with cardio or Anabolic Pump in place of the levaithan
 
i dunno... i would hold off. Not that it is all good, just waaaay too much pills for one time. First of all throw away the krealkyn and get some creatine mono, read "creatine ethyl-ester is inferior" here on the boards. Secondly, finish off the paravol/leeviathan...

your base should be creatine/bcaa/protein/vitamins:(maybe beta-alanine like incarnate): this should never change

add in other supps one at a time, like add cissus and powerfull for a run, then 6-oxo and a tesst booster, then badassmass jungle warfare proanabol restore

i think the all at once approach minimizes the effects you are going to get. REMEMBER your body is a long term thing over years. Why burn out cash for minimal benefit over a couple months
 
i dunno about BCAA's per se, i take glutamine, leucine, and GABA free form. I just hope to get enough isoleucine and and valine from 500g of protein a day :)
 
well rather than gettin extra bcaa's on the side, wont a multi-vitamin like animal pak cover the bcaa category?
 
fritzer said:
i dunno about BCAA's per se, i take glutamine, leucine, and GABA free form. I just hope to get enough isoleucine and and valine from 500g of protein a day :)
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glutamine for sure. i agree. I take gaba at night. 500g of protein a day? your crapping a lot of that out. your body can't absorb all of that. a waste imo.
 
FitModel said:
I'm not 100% familiar with all the specific supplements listed...

however, I think adding those would be alright,

I would add the BCAA's, and maybe the powerfull, but I would not add the 6oxo...stacking too many supplements can be overkill and you won't know what supp is doing what, I prefer to only stack 2-3 at a time (at most)

maybe after your done with the leviathan, paravol, incarnate, krealkyn, and reset...u can do a 6oxo and powerfull stack...
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i agree, add the bcaa's and pFull for sure, b ut hold off on the 6oxo. no gyno from this.
 
reset why? as a matter of fact......ask yourself this question.....why am i taking any of this? also whats your age,diet and training look like.....if thats not in line don't make the mistake of throwing money @ supps expecting them to "fix" that you want fixed....i'm NOT saying that is the case but what is your answer? just trying to help, not trying to criticize..
 
bishop-


stop focusing so much on supplements and get the core basics down first. You keep asking about all these supplements in god knows how many posts and relying on them like you cannot make gains without them. What about your multivitamin ? I'm sure im not the only one who has noticed you keep bringing up these nonsensical posts when your missing the point all along.

And you know what ? Don't take this personally and try to turn into a little pissy girl. Start with your vitamin and your protein, research supplements, then figure it out from there....
 
Ahh man all you guys are wonderful!!!...I really really appreciate all this....I'm 24 and have always had a hard time gaining....The last time I really tried to work out was when I was 18 maybe thats where the 18yr workout confusion came in......My diet right now is just eating as much as I can I usually keep it clean to chicken, bannana, steak, salami whatever I can get and then a couple shakes in between....I think my mistake in life is not getting enough calories...and always 5 egg whites before bed....Once again I thank all of you for your input.....The muscle fiber thing I asked cause I heard that if genetically you have less muscle fiber then its a loss cause.
 
bishop17 said:
thats what I definitely need...Something like that...Should I include that with this stack or my next one??
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My suggestion: Try everything that you've been asking people and the supplements you got right now and give it 6 months-1 year and review your results, then reasses your plan again. It takes time to figure out if your doing something right, or wrong for that matter.
 
bishop17 said:
why whats going on??.......thanks for the help too,
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like I said earlier and a few others mentioned...diet. you need that down before supplements. It goes like this.
Diet
Training
Sleep
Supplements...they are the last thing you need to think about. You need the first three down pat before supplements. if you are interested, I have my diet and training posted on another site. Let me know. I've put on 50lbs. in 2 years. I'm at 10% bf. Diet is 80% of it. Obviously now I can't put on that much weight that quick as I'm weighing a lot more now and I'm closer to my potential. But when I started I was light and it was easy to put on weight once I started eating right.
 
Other than Arnold's good ol' D-Bol, his diet and training made up the majority of his success as a bodybuilder. Nothing else.
 
ReaperX said:
IGF-LR3=more muscle fibers.
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come on, thats a rather advanced drug. like u said before, for the time being get the basics down and over time start looking into more advanced stuff like that.
 
john123131 said:
it takes about 2 weeks for carnosine levels to increase in your muscles...in 2 weeks he'll be feelin it!
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I think i might hit up that incarnate, mostly because it contains beta alanine...and i really dont need a tub of it from primaforce lol
 
SwolE Mammoth said:
like I said earlier and a few others mentioned...diet. you need that down before supplements. It goes like this.
Diet
Training
Sleep
Supplements...they are the last thing you need to think about. You need the first three down pat before supplements. if you are interested, I have my diet and training posted on another site. Let me know. I've put on 50lbs. in 2 years. I'm at 10% bf. Diet is 80% of it. Obviously now I can't put on that much weight that quick as I'm weighing a lot more now and I'm closer to my potential. But when I started I was light and it was easy to put on weight once I started eating right.
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Yo mentioning that, im good on everything else except sleep! And that i think honestly is holding ME back the most. Like ive even tried sleeping during the middle of the day (knockin myself out wit some nyquil) but people say i might over-sleep like that. Can too much sleep be a bad thing??
 
haha, dunno. Sitting at 245, 9%BF so i'll stick with my 500g of protein a day :)

and i don't mean to be a stickler, but swole mammoth and ar430 do you have any scientific research saying you cannot absorb 500g of protein a day?? Studies show a athlete and a inactive adult (which most protein requirment studies are conducted on) are completly different and 25-50g of protein per meal shows significant increases in amino conentration in blood plasma. So for the 16 hours i am awake i want plasma levels to be as high as possible every 2 hours eating a meal... So even if you only had 6 meals a day then thats 300g protein, me: i have more meals. And i would assume if i was "crapping" out the "extra" 250g of protein i would be going to the bathroom a lot...:)

OH man, i might have to bust one out on this thread aswell

You have to look at calories in vs. calories out. I need AT LEAST 4625 calories a day to maintain and continue slowly gaining muscle without fat. The question is where you want these calories to come from. 500g protein, 440g Carbs, 97g fat. Your muscles are made of protein, and the idea of eating 800g of carbs and 200g of protein is ridiculous in my opinion a waste of time, you are cheating yourself out of some awesome results
 
fritzer said:
haha, dunno. Sitting at 245, 9%BF so i'll stick with my 500g of protein a day :)

and i don't mean to be a stickler, but swole mammoth and ar430 do you have any scientific research saying you cannot absorb 500g of protein a day?? Studies show a athlete and a inactive adult (which most protein requirment studies are conducted on) are completly different and 25-50g of protein per meal shows significant increases in amino conentration in blood plasma. So for the 16 hours i am awake i want plasma levels to be as high as possible every 2 hours eating a meal... So even if you only had 6 meals a day then thats 300g protein, me: i have more meals. And i would assume if i was "crapping" out the "extra" 250g of protein i would be going to the bathroom a lot...:)

OH man, i might have to bust one out on this thread aswell

You have to look at calories in vs. calories out. I need AT LEAST 4625 calories a day to maintain and continue slowly gaining muscle without fat. The question is where you want these calories to come from. 500g protein, 440g Carbs, 97g fat. Your muscles are made of protein, and the idea of eating 800g of carbs and 200g of protein is ridiculous in my opinion a waste of time, you are cheating yourself out of some awesome results
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lol nah u didnt get what i meant. i meant 200g of protein in powder max. i eat close to 150-200g of protein a day and take in a good 50-100g in powder. im all for alot of protein intake, but i think that most of it should be from food and not powder form. i also think a person should be takin in a minimum of 3000 cals for muscle bulking. carbs and fat all depend on the person. keep in mind every person is different. age, sex, weight, activities, diet, and training have a lot to do with how you wanna go about intakes.
 
could not have said it better man, reps. oh yah, mine is not 500g from powder i see where you are coming from :)
 
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