From Alr
Please let me get this straight. So some junior arm-chair chemist has decided that the FDA (Trust me they have sampled our products MANY times) is incorrect as is our C of A’s, basic lab results and the effects of Jungle Warfare people realize and we sell D-Bol under a false label? Is that the jest of the idiocy?
I would say let it go because it would likely cause huge sales returns but I would not want our customers misled and be unhappy with the results expected to equal serious D-Bol use. We sell good products and stand by them.
As you know it has become common to use the boards as a means to put down other companies or point the FDA (yes, they read the boards as well. Any question of how factual this is you can ask someone I regard highly for his actual knowledge, Mr. Arnold…whom has unfortunately, and perhaps unfairly, had to deal with them in a less than positive way a great deal over the few years of recent) at a product hoping to reduce the competition or settle some silly personal agenda. Perhaps this is the case? Who knows but the author is not real bright. Either way this is why I do seminars when I can, but not post. In person or not at all. I wish I had the time to do some posting on occasion but as you know I actually have a company to run. We cannot afford to higher others to run it for us as some can. More power to them of course. I prefer to work anyway.
Okay, lets keep it simple without getting into science few would have a clue on…and Dutch Boy obviously would not. Please look below. I am sure you will see how the Dutch Mag arm-chair comic came to his conclusions. You will note that there are 1,4 bonds in the structures of Boldenone, D-Bol (Methyl-Boldenone), Turinabol, oral Turinabol, ATD (an aromatase inhibitor) and also in our old 17a-methyl-ATD. The first 4 are anabolic steroids the latter 2 are AI's) So one could say indeed they are related. Or we can describe them as various testosterone analogs if we want them to sound all cool and “steroid”. Truth is that if it is hormonal it is steroidal in some manner. (Yup, and DHEA was going to make men out of boys…okay. Hmmm. Just because it is hormonal does not mean it will make you huge or grow a penis). But it does not mean it will add muscle at available dosages. In some cases the metabolites of 1,4 androst structures may cause a false D-Bol or Boldenone test result. So ATD is certainly not D-Bol but it is related as is Methyl-ATD. So is that the boys angle? Got it? Now, JW has an analog of ATD in it called 17a-methyl-5a-dehydroetiocholane-4,6-dien-3-one-17-ol = 6-dehydromethyltestosterone. It certainly could have anabolic value if dosed pretty high but certainly not comparable to D-Bol any more than 11-oxo-Testosterone is an illegal hard core steroid just because it is a testosterone analog. (Its in catfish so at least somewhat DSHEA friendly I would think).
1) D-bol= 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one (1-dehydromethyltestosterone)
2) Boldenone= 1,4-androstadiene-3-one-17β-ol
3) Oral turinabol= 4-chloro-17ß-hydroxy-17a-methylandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one (4-dehydromethyltestosterone)
4) ATD=1,4,6-androstratrien-3,17-dione
5) JW compound =17a-methyl-5a-dehydroetiocholane-4,6-dien-3-one-17-ol = 6-dehydromethyltestosterone (JW compound)
Interesting thought is that 3,6,17-Androstenetrione (4-etioallocholen-3,6, 17-trione) is also related to ATD and therefore guilt by association to D-Bol. It would take a bit of a stretch to make that one work but hey, perhaps we can ask the Dutch lad to write copy for us if we opted to ever make it. Not! lol
So please do not let a few people get to you because they read something stupid somewhere. We do our job and don't piss on other peoples projects no matter how silly WE think they are.
Patrick Im sorry
Please forgive me, I still Luv you long time
