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Tommy Morrison Has Serious Gyno (Pics)

Jayhawkk said:
MMA is a half breed sport and people can use a whole lot of areas they great at to hide their weak points.
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A Half Breed sport like Football ? Sprinters can out run them, Powerlifters can outlift them, I could go on, but put the same on the turf and the all arounds in the NFL will murder them.
 
Beowulf said:
Boxers can learn TD defense, but that isn't the save all for them. Look at Crocop vs. Randleman. Crocop was so intent on his TD defense to set up strikes that he dropped his hands to sprawl and got KTFO'd. Strikers should not underestimate the striking of grapplers.
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Yeah, no kidding. All the dimensions to the game change everything. The classic Couture-Liddell I fight or Couture-Sylvia are good examples. Or Stout being the more accomplished kickboxer getting beat on his feet by Fisher just last night.
 
jas123 said:
Yeah, no kidding. All the dimensions to the game change everything. The classic Couture-Liddell I fight or Couture-Sylvia are good examples. Or Stout being the more accomplished kickboxer getting beat on his feet by Fisher just last night.
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Yeah, I don't know, given some more thought it's tough to say which athlete could make the easier transition. Too many variables. An extremely athletic boxer could probably make a much smoother transition to MMA then a highly technical boxer could. Example: although kickboxing not boxing, Stefan Leko a highly technical KB had trouble hacking it in the MMA world because he lacked the strength and quickness to avoid getting taken down. Crocop an extremely athletic KB was able to use his power and speed to do well even early on when he didn't know the ground like he does now. And obviously a jiu-jitsu specialist is going to have more trouble transitioning to boxing than a guy with a predominant Muay Thai background.
 
I am obsessed with MMA, so obviously I'm biased, but if anyone wants to claim that MMA is a half-breed sport, go check out the Tyson Griffin vs. Frankie Edgar fight, Roger Huerta vs. Leonard Garcia, or Din Thomas vs. that new guy (Stevens?), and you will see the future of MMA. There is no half-breeding. These guys are tremendous athletes who flow from art to art with beauty and precision.

Watch Thomas' right hook to a double leg in which he dropped just below his opponents text book perfect counter. I screamed in delight when it happened, and the other eight guys in the room looked at me as if I were insane b/c they did not comprehend what they had just witnessed. I think there is a gif of it somewhere. I'll try to find it.

The Edgar vs. Griffin fight was possibly the best fight of 07. There was no flashy knockout, just 3 full rounds of beautiful striking highlighted by seamless transitions to wrestling, and once on the mat, a jiu-jitsu war. Half breed my donkey!

Jay, I don't say this to be rude; I say it to clarify what I did not yet comprehend one year ago. I think to really appreciate MMA, one needs to train, or at least become educated about it, b/c the beauty is in the subtleties.
 
PumpingIron said:
Threat huh? Alexander, you really need to not get bent outta shape when someone comes close to mentioning something is better then the "almighty" mma. a sport that has been around for how long?

I love the sport but getting into an arguement about how a mma fighter would kick a boxers ass in an mma fight is pointless because a boxer would kick the an mma fighters ass in a boxing match.
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Vale Tudo, which is basically PRIDE rules w/ headbutts, has been around in Brazil for years. It started mainly because of the Gracies, but it is not as new as most people think it is. UFC started in 1993, but NHB was around decades before that.
 
Alexander said:
Yeah, I don't know, given some more thought it's tough to say which athlete could make the easier transition. Too many variables. An extremely athletic boxer could probably make a much smoother transition to MMA then a highly technical boxer could. Example: although kickboxing not boxing, Stefan Leko a highly technical KB had trouble hacking it in the MMA world because he lacked the strength and quickness to avoid getting taken down. Crocop an extremely athletic KB was able to use his power and speed to do well even early on when he didn't know the ground like he does now. And obviously a jiu-jitsu specialist is going to have more trouble transitioning to boxing than a guy with a predominant Muay Thai background.
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That sounds pretty reasonable.

I mean take a boxer, now switch to 4 oz gloves and the game changes (defending is different, some punches like overhands become more effective).
Now add in kicks, everything changes again, eg leg kicks hurt.
Now add in knees and elbows and the clinch game, you can't have a hole here, see Franklin-Silva.
Now the biggest change, add in the ground game, and now you only know half of the game and your defenseless.

MMA is complicated and even great athletes like Guillard will fail if they don't have it mentally. I'm NOT making an MMA > boxing post here so don't stir up trouble.
 
Damn, the gif was on fightreport, but was taken down for some reason. If it shows up I'll be sure to post it.
 
There is no other sport that has as many variables as MMA, which is the reason it is impossible to be invincible.
 
There is no other sport that has as many variables as MMA, which is the reason it is impossible to be invincible.
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This is why I call it a half breed sport. Not as an insult but to show how it pulls from so many areas to develop its own identity. I'm not a hardcore fan but i do like to watch every now and again. It wasn't a derogitory comment.

RD: That is your decision and more power to ya but don't complain if you get caught and have to pay the price for playing.
 
Alexander, I see where you are coming from. I apologize for jumping down your throat but I thought you were claiming boxing was a lesser sport in a round about way. Morrison was one of my favorite boxers back in the day and was the last guy to hold a Heavyweight belt before the recent wave of russians. So I am most definitely biased towards him.


Rodja, MMA has been around for lets say 30 some odd years. Boxing has been around for a few centuries.
 
I'm pretty sure some of the Helio Gracie Vale Tudo fights date back to 1932. However, those were more of a style vs. style. I would agree that the true MMA as a fully evolved sport has only really existed for a few years.
 
PumpingIron said:
Alexander, I see where you are coming from. I apologize for jumping down your throat but I thought you were claiming boxing was a lesser sport in a round about way. Morrison was one of my favorite boxers back in the day and was the last guy to hold a Heavyweight belt before the recent wave of russians. So I am most definitely biased towards him.


Rodja, MMA has been around for lets say 30 some odd years. Boxing has been around for a few centuries.
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Right on. I love boxing, just last night I was watching a few of Evander's early 90's fights, good stuff. I liked Morrison a lot, he was an exciting fighter, and with wins against Razor Rudduck and George Foreman and his only losses to Lennox and Ray Mercer, you've got to give the guy credit. With him thinking he can beat the best in MMA, he is discrediting there abilities, and coming across as an arse.
 
Wait, thats next weekend...against Kimbo Slice...I always thought that guy was a tool, kimbo that is.

and i guess it's not amended rule either.
 
I used to think Kimbo was a POS, but I've slowly grown to think he's not THAT bad. He was training with Bas for this fight, and Bas had some really good things to say about Kimbo. I'll definitely be rooting for Mercer, one of my favorite HW's. Kimbo apparently has learned some ground, so I hope Mercer is ready for that.
 
PumpingIron, MMA actually has some Greco-Roman roots. See "pankration." Of course so does boxing. The Queensbury ruleset of boxing is older than MMA, yes. Almost all of the individual arts that make up MMA have a long detailed history though.
 
Agreed. But MMA is a sport that pulls them all together. You can't really use the dates that the individual martial art was created, becuase the sport isn't that individual martial art. You have to use the dates of when they were combined, because this is the sport we are discussing, not the indivuals disciplines.

I hope that made sense. I had some trouble getting this thought out.
 
I think he's talking about that old school boxing of 100+ years ago, that actually looks amazingly like MMA. I saw a bunch of pics at Sherdog or something.
 
I was wrong. Queensbury rules are pretty much the current set. I'll try to dig up pics of what I was talking about. I think it was centered in NYC, and it included throws, and some subs.
 
"Pankration," which had a "rule" set sort of like early UFCs, was around in Greco-Roman times. After it kind of phased out, yah it was pretty much individual styles for many hundreds of years.
 
Hey boxing fans. Should be a pretty good heavy wt. fight Sat. Night. Brewster vs Klitchko. The Americans can use a win here. In the past year, all 4 heavy wt title belts belonged to the Eastern Europeans.
 
somewhatgifted said:
Keep in mind he's a pvssy and only getting in the ring with bums
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LOL, say that to Tommy Morrison's face and we will see who the pussy is.

The guy got in the ring and fought his guts out for 15 years.

Smack talking about fighters on the net by guys who have never gotten in the ring is what defines a pussy.

Oh and BTW I boxed for 5 years and I never disrespect fighters in real life or on the net - its called respect and real fighters deserve it - internet tough guys do not.
 
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