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Superdrol,test,and lipids

TripDog

TripDog

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would combining superdrol with test have and positive effect on lipids? Test would from what i understand help in the lethargy department..what about lipids???

Trippp........
 
TripDog said:
would combining superdrol with test have and positive effect on lipids? Test would from what i understand help in the lethargy department..what about lipids???

Trippp........
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really, i dont think so superdrol will make lipids worse no matter what
 
my favorite cycle to date is superdrol and test...at 30mg i didnt notice much lethargy...i've never taken it without test though...
 
Tom 185 said:
my favorite cycle to date is superdrol and test...at 30mg i didnt notice much lethargy...i've never taken it without test though...
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did you use a clone or the real deal? how many weeks did ya run superdrol with it
 
SD destroys my lipids, with or w/o test...but they always return to something close to normal after a few weeks.
 
same_old said:
superdrol destroys my lipids, with or w/o test...but they always return to something close to normal after a few weeks.
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you take red yeast rice with it,if so how much??
 
TripDog said:
you take red yeast rice with it,if so how much??
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i did in the past but i dont fcuk with the herbs and plant supplements anymore for cholesterol or BP or liver. waste of time IMHO. eating clean with everything whole grain and lower fats has done more than a few caps of any ground up herb has done. and i seriously doubt they could stave off the lipid/liver crush from SD, or even var or winny for that matter.
 
same_old said:
i did in the past but i dont fcuk with the herbs and plant supplements anymore for cholesterol or BP or liver. waste of time IMHO. eating clean with everything whole grain and lower fats has done more than a few caps of any ground up herb has done. and i seriously doubt they could stave off the lipid/liver crush from superdrol, or even var or winny for that matter.
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I completely agree with you, I really doubt support supps help much to stop the damage to the liver and lipids from roids. I do think if they are taking year round ur liver and lipids would take less damage from the harsh compounds.
 
They may not stave of damage from taking place but they most certainly effect recovery tremendously.

For example, recent lipids went from 180 to 140 using policosinal and fish oil for 60 days (I don't have the data with me to give you the full breakdown).

This was just for the sake of it, it was not post cycle from SD.
 
R-ALA does wonders for your liver during a cycle.
Glcophase XR is a must for me.

There are many studies out there that support the fact that supplementing NAC increase liver function during stress.

I'd personally like to see cycle support without the red rice yeast.
I won't take it because I don't want the added stress to my liver.
 
B5150 said:
They may not stave of damage from taking place but they most certainly effect recovery tremendously.

For example, recent lipids went from 180 to 140 using policosinal and fish oil for 60 days (I don't have the data with me to give you the full breakdown).

This was just for the sake of it, it was not post cycle from superdrol.
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yeah, but when you come off the policosanol, it goes right back to where it was (right?). just like using an Rx, it would seem.

also, i dont think anybody will dispute poli's ability to lower total cholesterol, but i doubt it would do much on a cycle of superdrol, personally....and it doesnt really matter anyhow, as it's a highly transient phenomenon (ditto for BP and liver stress)

years ago, right after starting juice (but not while on), my total Chol was 123. during a later cycle in 2004 that included a 17aa, it was 185. now, at 27 y/o and many long cycles later it's back at exactly 123 (according to a home test, which i'm told are accurate)...it's mostly about genetics and diet, IMHO. juice is fleeting....at least when used responsibly. i dunno about HRT.
 
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yeah, but when you come off the policosanol, it goes right back to where it was (right?). just like using an Rx, it would seem.
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Good question. If or when the opportunity arises for a test of my lipids without using poli I may be able to tell. I would imaging it does increase to some degree. For me it is a staple becuase it is rather cheap and very effective.
also, i dont think anybody will dispute poli's ability to lower total cholesterol, but i doubt it would do much on a cycle of superdrol, personally....and it doesnt really matter anyhow, as it's a highly transient phenomenon (ditto for BP and liver stress)
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I would agree with it not staving of superdrol like lipid anialition. I would not use it to prevent such a potent lipid killer but because it is a staple it would likely be in if I was on SD. Personally I have used only NAC and ALA for liver support on SD cycles at doses up to 50mg (I was a beta tester)without any impact on liver profile at all. Then again those are staples as well.

years ago, right after starting juice (but not while on), my total Chol was 123. during a later cycle in 2004 that included a 17aa, it was 185. now, at 27 y/o and many long cycles later it's back at exactly 123 (according to a home test, which i'm told are accurate)...it's mostly about genetics and diet, IMHO. juice is fleeting....at least when used responsibly. i dunno about HRT.
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yes, I would agree about the genetics and lipids. Some guys are hit hard by it and cannot recover. We are fortunate in that aspect. But I am sure we have a weak link somewhere ;)
 
So how would you go about knowing if you have genetically weak lipids? And how long does it usually take you guys to recover ur lipids back to normal?
 
Well a baseline lipid profile would a be a place to start. The to value and especially the HDL:LDL values and ratios of your baseline numbers is important. The issue with methyl oral androgen like superdrol is the drop on your HDL and the increase of your LDL. If you are low in HDL and high in LDL to begin with it may be a good indicator or a potentially poor response to these orals.

When I tested my pre cycle lipids were normal low. My Invalid Link Removed show a normal healthy total cholesterol but my HDL was dramatically reduce and my LDL was considerably increaded and the ratio was way out of range.

I have seen guys with lipid resulst of 250-300 total cholesterol with as equally bad or worse ratio.

Based on how I responded it would appear my genetic lipid disposition may be in my favor. Not to mention 10's of G's of fish oil per day.
 
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