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phera/ergomax

zerogravity58

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Ive been browsing this forum for along time and decided to sign up. I wanted some opinions. My first cycle i ran awhile back was 4 weeks long and i ran a methylplex/prostanzonal stack. It was 10/20/20/30 for the methylplex and 100/150/200/250 for the prostanzonal. I had good gains, put on about 12lbs in 4 weeks and kept 9 of those. My post cycle therapy was nolva, tribulus, restore, fish oil, multi, creatine. On cycle i took, AX perfect cycle, multi, fish oil. Im looking to run a cycle again. I have half a bottle of methylplex and a full bottle of Ergomax LMG. I was looking to stack the two for 4-5 weeks. I was going to run 10/20/20/20/20 of methylplex and 10/20/20/20/20 of ergomax LMG. I was going to run the same PCT. I did not have any adverse side effect from methylplex last time and my libido was not completly destroyed. Thats why i would like ro run another cycle of this. I also have bottles of methyldrol, MAX LMG and a bottle of rebound XT. I dont want to run MAX LMG due to it being a progestin and the big risk of gyno.
 
ergo 20mg/ ergo 20mg/ ergo 20mg phera 10mg/ phera 20mg/ phera 20mg. i could run a cycle like that. But as DR D. stated in another post.... "You are basically correct my friend. It's fine to stack them. Taking PP with Emax is like increasing the amount of an isomer present in that formula already. The advantage in the PP is it's greater anabolism and reduced androgenicity. For that reason, I'd start the cycle with Emax and finish with the same dose of the PP. Or just keep it simple and take 10mg of each." So either was would be pretty safe :)
 
Ergomax and pheraplex are almost identical compounds. You're not really "stacking" (combining two different steroids for a synergistic effect) as much as you are simply double dosing if you do this.
 
Yup, both are DMT products with different A and B isomer ratios.
 
yup, basically what yeahright and stxnas said. so your using the same compound just different isomers so 20plex and 20ergo is like 40plex (almost).
 
If Phera has less androgenicity does that mean it would cause less acne? I'm just asking because i loved ergo but i got very bad acne from it.
 
right, im going to work with the cycle alittle bit more. I did not go over 30MG's last time. I may start with 10MG's of both, then go to 20 of one and 10 of the other. I did not get any acne from phera last time. Also to dry up the gains in the last week...could i split and run 10MG's of phera and 10MG's of superdrol? i dont want to run a stand alone cycle of superdrol becuase of the harsher side effect and i dont know how my body will react to it.
 
zerogravity58 said:
.could i split and run 10MG's of phera and 10MG's of superdrol? i dont want to run a stand alone cycle of superdrol becuase of the harsher side effect and i dont know how my body will react to it.
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You're afraid of how your body will react to superdrol so you think it's a good idea to combine superdrol with another methylated steroid?
 
this is true, that why if i was going to do it i would keep it as small as possible. Is there a non methylated steriod to stack with it? last time i stacked juggarnaut's Win-Z-trol. I was going to use this again. Almost the same exact cycle except with the addition of 10MG's of ergo since my PP supply is low. Would there be a better non methylated product to use besides Win-z-trol? i wont use MAX LMG tho. Reason i ask is ive been out of the supp market for a few months and alot of new stuff has come out.
 
Zol is a classic stacker with this. Most of the others are progestins like Max LMG which you say you don't want. Furaguno is something to look at but it appears underdosed and it's too new to have much feedback.
 
This is a little off topic, but I'm sure someone on this thread has the answer. Is Pherabol (by Juggernaut) a PP clone or an Ergomax clone? It claims to be PP, and I know PP and emax are similar, but I've heard people say Pherabol is actually an ergomax clone. Do any of you know the truth?
 
Its a phera clone.

If it was ergo, the ingredienants would say "pherobolic matrix w/ delta-2" ...or something like that.
 
i have two bottles of win-z-trol at 90 caps per bottle. Plus the ergo/phera. I reacted great with phera last round with almost no side. I thought about throwing superdrol in but i dont think i will. I have both and already have my post cycle therapy. Nolva, tribulus, fenugreek, restore, creatine, plus the normals. Same as i ran last time with good success. My last cycle i ran 10/100, 20/150, 20/150, 20/200. For this cycle im working with ergo/phera/winztrol. I think i will do 10/10/100, 10/20/150, 10/20/200, 10/20/250. Then depending on how everythings going i may throw in a 5th week of 20/20/300. I will see how my body reacts first but I never stopped gaining while on phera. i gained all that way until i stopped it where i lost 3 pounds of water in the first week then kept the rest. Then for PCT i will probally run 40/20/20/10 of nolva and my other supps.
 
What do you mean by "the normals"?

What are you using for support supps? I would suggest Invalid Link Removed. If you're not familiar with it, check it out Invalid Link Removed.
 
zerogravity58 said:
i have two bottles of win-z-trol at 90 caps per bottle. Plus the ergo/phera. I reacted great with phera last round with almost no side. I thought about throwing superdrol in but i dont think i will. I have both and already have my post cycle therapy. Nolva, tribulus, fenugreek, restore, creatine, plus the normals. Same as i ran last time with good success. My last cycle i ran 10/100, 20/150, 20/150, 20/200. For this cycle im working with ergo/phera/winztrol. I think i will do 10/10/100, 10/20/150, 10/20/200, 10/20/250. Then depending on how everythings going i may throw in a 5th week of 20/20/300. I will see how my body reacts first but I never stopped gaining while on phera. i gained all that way until i stopped it where i lost 3 pounds of water in the first week then kept the rest. Then for post cycle therapy i will probally run 40/20/20/10 of nolva and my other supps.
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sounds good. when i ran phera it was my first cycle in years and i was really excited. things went so smooth until i added mtrn in. But i kept gaining in PCT. i would say with your plans you might have to run the 20/20 ergo phera sooner. Trust me you will need more than the last time. At least that is my experience it could be the actual maker of the compound as well. the first time i used the original PP then the second time it was phera max an ergo clone. so Im thinking in my experience PP although real similar to ergo it gave me better gains (PP).
 
Im low on phera so in order to make my 5 weeks i will just about use a whole bottle of ergo and my half bottle of phera. I also have anabolic innovations cycle support sitting here for my support supps. I will see how the first week goes with the the 10MG's of each. If im not seeing anything i will up it alot sooner. Then i will run 10MGphera/20MG's of ergo. Ergo is a 7:3 ratio so that means i will be taking 24MG's of phera (2-ene) I will be 3 pills short on ergo and have 5 extra phera pills in a 5 week cycle. I really need to find another phera bottle
 
how would phera-vol compare?

Im not into the chemistry here but methyl plex is 17a-methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol

and phera vol is 17a-methyl-etioallochan-2-ene-17-b-ol
17-methyl-delta-2-etioallochane

Is phera-vol compare more to ergo then phera?
 
Delta-2 = 2-ene, so it's hard to say. User feedback would be your best bet.

EDIT: I just noticed that you linked the PheraVol. That is source posting and you can be banned for that...you might want to change that.
 
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