Retain 2.0 AKA, Retaining MOTI

motiv8er

motiv8er

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Hey Guys,

I am having some serious cortisol issues from both a long cycle and some fun, family things. I have had good results with LX and Retain in the past, and thought I would help give more info on this product while my training/nutrition/ recovery was spot-on.

I am calling this an active PCT anabolic session. I will be using some anavar, EPI/ HAVOC, Retain 2.0 and a myriad of other necessary ingrediants for both performance and overall health advancment.

This wont be a log per se, but more of how the product is working for me updated whenever something worth reporting occurs.

The biggest goal I have for this product is for my continued weight loss with emphasis on my gut. I have lost over 20lbs of fat in the last 7 weeks and need to tighten up my belly although the rest of me is looking pretty large and lean.

I have been doing cardio 5 days a week using a lot of HIIT and I am sure that along with a few other issues are keeping my cortisol elevated.

Please ask any questions that you have.
 
Not saving the Retain for post cycle? I was curious about adding this while on too...that is when I decide to do a cycle of Epi.
Please update if any joint issues arise.

Any advantages to adding Activate while on Epi?...curious about that one too...never really heard anyone mention it yet.
 
I will be paying close attention to any joint tightness or issues. I will have to dose both accordingly.

I am quite sure I am having a large flux of cortisol from my life, so combating them ASAP will be my best route.
 
vBulletin Message
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Apowerz6 again.

What can I say Austin, you own me for LIFE!!
 
I see how it is...........

i answere everybody's questions, do all the hard work get in the LOG FIRST! and then as soon as apowerz6 decides to FINALLY show up and do some work, HE gets all the credit!

I see how it is.............
 
macedaddy said:
I see how it is...........

i answere everybody's questions, do all the hard work get in the LOG FIRST! and then as soon as apowerz6 decides to FINALLY show up and do some work, HE gets all the credit!

I see how it is.............
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Send me all your personal supps for free... and watch me put out. :)
 
Thats, what Austin did.
 
WHAT!?!?!?!!?!??!

he gave you HIS stash?

why didn't he give it to me?

AUSTIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:toofunny:
 
hehehe

Seriously though, he do rocka woka!!
 
apowerz6 is DEF TOP NOTCH!

HE IS MY BOY!

now, lets get back on topic! LOL! aren't you taking Retain or something? :toofunny:
 
Got the email from Nutra it is in route!

Should be online with it by 1 Pm tomorrow!!
 
Update:

Gametime. The pack arrived while I was out eating with my Father. I popped the first cap at 1:10 EST. I will be working out at 5PM, will pop another one after that, then one right before bed.

I will then pop one in the AM tomorrow, one right after workout, and another right before bed as long as these are good times per AX.
 
macedaddy said:
apowerz6 is DEF TOP NOTCH!

HE IS MY BOY!

now, lets get back on topic! LOL! aren't you taking Retain or something? :toofunny:
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Would you chekc out my dosing protocol and let me know if you see anything I should do differently?

Thanks!
 
your dosing sounds fine, but you may want to do 1 AM, 1 pre-workout and then 1 post workout.......IT is round your workout that you are most prone to cortisol.
 
Hey Man,

As far as anybody knows, it is my first time. It just makes them feel better. It just sounds good. Its all part of the packaging.
 
Ahh and the hate continues :lol: Anyway I am glad that some one is trying the new retain, as I am looking to see how it goes, I love the original one!!! Just don't take to many or else your joints will be hella mad at you!
 
Snap, Crackle, Pop!!

Update!

Good news, the only person I could sneak up on is a deaf person! I know the product is starting to work for me when I sound like the tin man needing a lube job. MACE... here boi. :)

I wanted to wait before I reported much. Firstly I noticed an increase in cracking of joints and overall tightness. This is a good sign in this case. I am feeling* like harder overall, and particularly in my midsection. Nothing to write home about yet, but some improvement I believe for sure.

I am taking three caps a day spread out over my workout times. I imagine by this weekend I will have some more info to share. I will report in tomorrow at AM and tell weight and give an overall midsection description.
 
Good post Motiv8.

Darn good price at NP - I think I'll get a bottle when ResetAD hits.
 
motiv8er said:
Update!

Good news, the only person I could sneak up on is a deaf person! I know the product is starting to work for me when I sound like the tin man needing a lube job. MACE... here boi. :)

I wanted to wait before I reported much. Firstly I noticed an increase in cracking of joints and overall tightness. This is a good sign in this case. I am feeling* like harder overall, and particularly in my midsection. Nothing to write home about yet, but some improvement I believe for sure.

I am taking three caps a day spread out over my workout times. I imagine by this weekend I will have some more info to share. I will report in tomorrow at AM and tell weight and give an overall midsection description.
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did some one call? :toofunny:

joint pain sucks, but glad you are happy and the product works! :thumbsup:


AND

what is resetAD?
 
Hey Guys,

I am getting over a terrible bout with food poisining. Whatever MACE says, dont eat his meatloaf! Really, I wanted to just die. I am back in schedule and going to the gym in a few. I will report back into this thread with more details by the weekend.
 
Sorry to hear that... mine was venisen. I was fvcked up really bad. Just shaking and twitching and explosions that smelled like somebody had REALLY died up my ass. Insert hamster joke here:
 
motiv8er said:
Sorry to hear that... mine was venisen. I was fvcked up really bad. Just shaking and twitching and explosions that smelled like somebody had REALLY died up my ass. Insert hamster joke here:
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After School Special's Webster??? :think: :think: :think:

Adams
 
Hey Guys,

Well I had about the worst food poisoning of my life last week. It was terrible. I have lost some size and strength. I did manage to dose 1 retain in the AM and 1 in the PM during this time period once I was able to ascertain what was causing the illness.

This past week has been one of size and strength recovery for me. It has also been cool being able to eat again. I must have lost about 14,000 to 16,000 cals worth of food that week. I have about two weeks worth of product that I will use as a true base for my opinion of the product with the correct training circumstances needed to gain valuable insight.
 
Food poisoning S*CKS man!!! I'm sorry to hear about that. Well if you need to take some time off training, keep dosin the retain so you don't have any muscle breakdown.

I started retain2 a few weeks ago and the most noticeable difference for me is the joint problems I had with the original are GONE. Also has proved effective for thinning out that waistline!
 
motiv8er said:
Hey Guys,

I am having some serious cortisol issues from both a long cycle and some fun, family things. I have had good results with LX and Retain in the past, and thought I would help give more info on this product while my training/nutrition/ recovery was spot-on.

I am calling this an active post cycle therapy anabolic session. I will be using some anavar, EPI/ HAVOC, Retain 2.0 and a myriad of other necessary ingrediants for both performance and overall health advancment.

This wont be a log per se, but more of how the product is working for me updated whenever something worth reporting occurs.

The biggest goal I have for this product is for my continued weight loss with emphasis on my gut. I have lost over 20lbs of fat in the last 7 weeks and need to tighten up my belly although the rest of me is looking pretty large and lean.

I have been doing cardio 5 days a week using a lot of HIIT and I am sure that along with a few other issues are keeping my cortisol elevated.

Please ask any questions that you have.
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Would you say that Retain and LX were both equally as good for losing that gut fat? 6 caps a day of LX worked wonders for me.
 
macedaddy said:
did some one call? :toofunny:

joint pain sucks, but glad you are happy and the product works! :thumbsup:


AND

what is resetAD?
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What do you think would be more of a culprit to joint pain and joint fluid buildup...Retain or Bromo?
 
the reason you generally get joint pain form the supps is because it DRIES them out, not causes you to retain fluid in them........

that sounds like a different problem all together, but i will double check with Dr. D and some others........
 
DR.D said:
Neither really. Are you experiencing fluid build up in a joint? What are the exact circumstances?
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Seems last couple of times when taking either an anti-E (RR) and Retain as part of my PCT or a simple natural T increase, I experience joint pain, mostly the knees and below, over and above the normal soreness and stiffness that I experience when doing lots of sports. Pretty much the next day everything feels more sore including my bones, but then my right knee in particualr started to get tight and puffy. This is why I call it fluid because it feels spongy and soft. I think need to start one at a time and use process of elimination. But my assumption is that my cortisol goes to low. Plus I am really estrogen sensitive. I now take cissus for joint pain by the way and love it.
 
CHAPS said:
Would you say that Retain and LX were both equally as good for losing that gut fat? 6 caps a day of LX worked wonders for me.
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I havent taken it that high due to some of the other supps I am on in this moment. I would specualte that higher dosed 7-oh has helped taken the fat off me quickly. I am too afriad of drying out my joints too much with my current cutting supps.
 
Cordeen said:
Seems last couple of times when taking either an anti-E (RR) and Retain as part of my post cycle therapy or a simple natural T increase, I experience joint pain, mostly the knees and below, over and above the normal soreness and stiffness that I experience when doing lots of sports. Pretty much the next day everything feels more sore including my bones, but then my right knee in particualr started to get tight and puffy. This is why I call it fluid because it feels spongy and soft. I think need to start one at a time and use process of elimination. But my assumption is that my cortisol goes to low. Plus I am really estrogen sensitive. I now take cissus for joint pain by the way and love it.
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Yeah, I suspect cissus is osteogenic but I am still not sure about the exact mechanism. As for cort, I think you're right. Local irritaion in the joint could cause a fluid buildup the next day to compensate for the dryness the day before that damage. I would suggest a joint lube like sodium hyaluronate, CMO or even just a good glucosamine/chondroitin supp to stack with that cissus. Also might try lowering the Retain and/or RR dose to half. Try separately like you were thinking so you can isolate the primary culprit.
 
SO I have finished up the bottle with the most important thing to report. I hadnt really recived too much benefit from this product until I ramped up the dosage to 5 caps a day. I went the last five days at 5 caps a day and noted some NICE tightening on my belt. I also look leaner in the mid-section. SO if I had this to do all over, I would have gotten it up to 5 caps a day MUCH sooner!!
 
motiv8er said:
SO I have finished up the bottle with the most important thing to report. I hadnt really recived too much benefit from this product until I ramped up the dosage to 5 caps a day. I went the last five days at 5 caps a day and noted some NICE tightening on my belt. I also look leaner in the mid-section. SO if I had this to do all over, I would have gotten it up to 5 caps a day MUCH sooner!!
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thanks for the update, moti! how much do you weigh?
 
macedaddy said:
thanks for the update, moti! how much do you weigh?
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I started at around 215-17lbs first thingy in the AM. naked. I think for my weight, 5 caps is a great way to go.
 
i agree, that is why i wanted to know for future recommendations!

hey, send us a pic and small testimonial of you holding the bottle and i will get you a alpha male shirt
 
macedaddy said:
i agree, that is why i wanted to know for future recommendations!

hey, send us a pic and small testimonial of you holding the bottle and i will get you a alpha male shirt
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The photo is in route!!!
 
macedaddy said:
i agree, that is why i wanted to know for future recommendations!

hey, send us a pic and small testimonial of you holding the bottle and i will get you a alpha male shirt
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Mace, that did not sound right bro. You asked him how much he weighs. He said 215-217, naked. Then you asked him for pictures! See where I'm goin' with this? lol :D J/K

I want an alpha male shirt too!
 
I tried to pick the one with the clothes on! Seriously, I couldnt get the camera far enough away. I also tried hanging the bottle from my member. Luckily for you, this is what you get!!
 

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I tried to pick the one with the clothes on! Seriously, I couldnt get the camera far enough away. I also tried hanging the bottle from my member. Luckily for you, this is what you get!!
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Mace wanted the nude I think. :icon_lol:

I'm just giving him a hard time because he's not around to defend himself. I'll have to run away when he comes back!
 
Postage info sent, got lingerie??

hehe
 
Mace,

You are my hero.

Thanks brotha!

"You had me at hello."
 
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