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prostanozol clone

I might have graduated from UT....


Yeah - those back to back losses to Clemson and Maryland were pretty bad. But - Casey Clausen was the QB - so that HAD to be expected.
(Dude was an IDIOT!)

Stick around come football season - we've got a pretty civil crew here - they are all pretty intelligent.
 
jmh80 said:
I might have graduated from UT....

Yeah - those back to back losses to Clemson and Maryland were pretty bad. But - Casey Clausen was the QB - so that HAD to be expected.
(Dude was an IDIOT!)

Stick around come football season - we've got a pretty civil crew here - they are all pretty intelligent.
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Well, this year Jonathan Crompton looks to be the starter for a while until Ainge recovers, if he recovers. Crompton looked pretty good at the Spring game last week.

Oh I definitely will stick around! It has to be more intelligent that the gang of Georgia fans I got stuck sitting near at the sportsbook at the Mirage in Vegas last fall.

I was so psyched how relentless our D was in the 4th quarter.
 
Looks like Winztrol isnt available anymore:think:

If anyone has seen it, please correct me..i still need to find a bottle, but not sure if i should give up looking..
 
Mega Zol can still be found. I personally squirled a couple of bottles away, just to be prepared for this. It really stack well with EVERYTHING.

That PP transitiones into Superdrol /Mega Zol reduced to Mega Zol sounds kinda heavy to me, though, you'd probably do a whole lot of growing.
 
Dr_C2 said:
well designed cycle as well.

What type of results have you seen so far?

Dr_C
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My weight is up, my strength is up. But i cheat too much, I'm not gonna say that I'm fat, cuz i'm not... but my hunger is killin' me. Epistane makes me huuungry, just me, but i also know that my estro, aromatase is high... so my gains are very positive from very little and from just mild increase in calories... so I cannot complain.

As of right now, the 3rd week is coming to a close and i can really see/feel a difference with the inclusion of pzol. i eagerly await next week when my dosage jumps from 100mg to 150mg of pros... and my epi is down to 10mg.

epi went from wk 1-6 : 30/30/20/10/0/0 mg
pzol went from wk 1-6 : 0/0/100/150/200/250 mg

pct wk: 7-16
ralox: 120-90/90-60/60-30/30-0 mg
pyramid ai letro : .75mg-1.25/1.25/1.25-2.5/2.5


inverse ai letro wk 12-16 : 2.5-1.25/1.25/1.25-.75 mg
 
addijhaq said:
My weight is up, my strength is up. But i cheat too much, I'm not gonna say that I'm fat, cuz i'm not... but my hunger is killin' me. Epistane makes me huuungry, just me, but i also know that my estro, aromatase is high... so my gains are very positive from very little and from just mild increase in calories... so I cannot complain.

As of right now, the 3rd week is coming to a close and i can really see/feel a difference with the inclusion of pzol. i eagerly await next week when my dosage jumps from 100mg to 150mg of pros... and my epi is down to 10mg.

epi went from wk 1-6 : 30/30/20/10/0/0 mg
pzol went from wk 1-6 : 0/0/100/150/200/250 mg

post cycle therapy wk: 7-16
ralox: 120-90/90-60/60-30/30-0 mg
pyramid ai letro : .75mg-1.25/1.25/1.25-2.5/2.5


inverse ai letro wk 12-16 : 2.5-1.25/1.25/1.25-.75 mg
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I have not done an epi cycle yet but I understand the hunger. Personally, I love M1,4-ADD (the diol version of the boldenone precursor)) but I am eating everything that won't eat me first. At around 100 mg ED with a few mgs of of an OT PH or SD, I grow like crazy.

FWIW, this does not happend with M1,4-AD (the dione version of the boldenone precursor) even though you have to use 3x or 4x the mgs to get the same effect as M1,4-ADD (the diol version).

Dr_C
 
Dr_C2 said:
I have not done an epi cycle yet but I understand the hunger. Personally, I love M1,4-ADD (the diol version of the boldenone precursor)) but I am eating everything that won't eat me first. At around 100 mg ED with a few mgs of of an OT PH or superdrol, I grow like crazy.

FWIW, this does not happend with M1,4-AD (the dione version of the boldenone precursor) even though you have to use 3x or 4x the mgs to get the same effect as M1,4-ADD (the diol version).

Dr_C
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wouldn't M1,4-AD/M1,4-ADD convert to methandrostenolone (dianabol)? Seeing as it is 17a-methylated, and carbon bonds do not come and go nearly as easily as protons and oxygen.
 
thesinner said:
wouldn't M1,4-AD/M1,4-ADD convert to methandrostenolone (dianabol)? Seeing as it is 17a-methylated, and carbon bonds do not come and go nearly as easily as protons and oxygen.
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You are correct both M1,4-AD and M1,4-ADD will convert to methylboldenone aka methandrostenolone aka Dinabol.

I might be about to tell you something you already know. If so please excuss the dissertation.

The difference is the rate at which the conversion occurs in the body for M1,4-ADD and M14-AD. This conversion and the difference between the bioavailability of the two compounds are moderated by the diol or dione configuration of each compound respectively.

What's the difference between a diol and a dione? How does it affect bioavailability? A diol is a hydroxyl double bond and a dione is a ketone double bond. This is only important because each is converted in the body by a different enzymatic process. The difference in enzymatic pathways affects bioavailability (conversion rates) in the blood stream. In short, the diol conversion occurs more efficiently than the dione conversion.

Now, what about conversion rates? Well, the diol configuration converts at a rate of 10%-12%, some say at 15% but I am skeptical of the higher number. The dione version converts at a rate considerably lower around 5%.

That is why most users of the diol version report good results at 70-100 mg. Most users of the dione version report good results between 300 and 600 mg.

I will not mention specific products by name but there are some that contain M1,4-AD (dione version of methylboldenone) and the recommend dosages and effective reported dosages are much higher than those products that contain the diol versions M1,4-ADD. For my money, I recommend the diol version b/c you can use less mgs and get the same effect. Less mgs of a methylated compound is always safer IMO and should be the easy choice given that both compounds can produce an equal effect.

With that said, everyone should try both compounds and formulate their own opinions. Don’t just take my word for it.

Dr_C
 
Dr C2 said:
Now, what about conversion rates? Well, the diol configuration converts at a rate of 10%-12%, some say at 15% but I am skeptical of the higher number. The dione version converts at a rate considerably lower around 5%.
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Just to comment: the diol version should more water-soluble. With that being said, it would be better absorbed into the body than the dione. Do the rates you've provided account for this difference in absorption? Or would the absorption difference be too small to even have to account for this?
 
thesinner said:
Just to comment: the diol version should more water-soluble. With that being said, it would be better absorbed into the body than the dione. Do the rates you've provided account for this difference in absorption? Or would the absorption difference be too small to even have to account for this?
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That is a great insight. In examining the difference detween the conversion rates of the diol and the dione configurations, I am only charting the absolulte level of enzymatic activity during the conversion of each in the body.

As you mentioned, there could be another plus for the diol configuration that is attributed to to other difference in absorption such as solubility.

Dr_C
 
calidood said:
I'm probably very late but I believe that winztrol is an orasten-E clone (Orasten E was by Gaspari nutrition)
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There's some Orastan-A out there, but it's not marked as A on the sites, it's shown as E, but they send you A. No wonder it's almost $100.

Stanozol-V is out now too.
 
$100? holy Sh!t What was it like 30 before? That stuff never did much for me anyways. Nice little addition to a stack but I could hardly ever tell much.
 
No, you missed the point of his post...There's two different products--> Orastan A and Orastan E. The newer one is a prosteroid to furazabol and is only supposed to be sold internationally.

EDIT: I just saw the new Pharmapro Stanozol-V. It retails for over $60 per bottle. Each bottle is only 60 caps AND the caps are only 25mg each! What a rip off! NO THANK YOU.
 
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