I had really wrenched my back and needed relief. I got immediate analgesic effect, quick recovery and a byproduct of increased strength that I did not expect. I am preaching USPLabs Cissus to all of my 70,000 fellow retirees here in The Villages. Some of them are showing serious interest. My recovery, muscles and sheer strength are getting noticed. I am no big shakes but this stuff works. It is one of the best possible naturals for any of us old farts. USPLabs is missing out on a huge, simply huge market. Back on topic, I plan on backing off this week to 2 X 3 and see if that is still as effective. The cost is high as you say. But you have to understand, retirees today often have some decent discretionary funds and they all share a total committment to maintaining and improving their health and to enjoy what they have better and longer. Products such as those USPLabs have brought out are every bit as positive and high potential in this aging market as they are in our BB/Powerlifter world. Hell, I am putting together a bunch of info on PowerFULL for a friend who suffers from Parkinsons. I plan on taking AP, PowerFULL and CISSUS for the rest of my life.