Then Why Is Everyone Buying Up The Epistane And Not The Havoc?
I'd find out when Epistane will be in stock then order. IMHO I'd rather support our board sponsors as they help keep this place going. But if your in a rush you do what you have to do.
IMHO I'd rather support our board sponsors as they help keep this place going. .
There has been a lot of speculate about these two products. There was testing done on each and they should be available soon (or at least people will be talking)
I have used both products. I had identical results with both. Very stellar.
I have used both products. I had identical results with both. Very stellar.
Was it like one huge cycle or two very close in succession or what?
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thats why i was a lil suprised, both are very new, not alot of time to do 2 cycles.Actually if I remember right Havoc has been around since around November of last year(maybe earlier). Plenty of time for a 4weeker/post cycle therapy, rinse and repeat with Epi.
Might wanna check the accuracy of that statement with your boss. RPN has been a board sponsor for months now, we have just been too busy to provide the forum tools so that Bobo could launch our subforum.
thats why i was a lil suprised, both are very new, not alot of time to do 2 cycles.Actually if I remember right Havoc has been around since around November of last year(maybe earlier). Plenty of time for a 4weeker/post cycle therapy, rinse and repeat with Epi.
If it came out Nov. 1st, for instance, and you did a four wk. cycle and four week PCT, you'd be done New Yr's Day. Then if you took the recommended break of twice the length of the cycle, you'd start your 2nd cycle approx. March 1st and JUST be finishing up a 4 week cycle right about now.
I think a lot of guys don't take that recommended break and end up going righ tinto another cycle right after PCT or maybe waiting just one month after PCT. I'd be worried about beating up my body like that, even w/ liver/lipid/BP protectants. Call me cautious, but still. I like to give my system a break between cycles.
I Really Am Wanting To Get Some Epistane, But It Is Out Of Stock Everywhere....if Epistane And Havoc Are Really The Same Thing, Then Why Is Everyone Buying Up The Epistane And Not The Havoc?
there are a few sites that have it in stock. keep looking
oh gotchya, so should i order havoc since i can get in now or should i wait for epistane you think? are they truly the same thing same?
buy epistane - they are not completely the same. i've used both and the sides with havoc were immediate and not worth it. epistane is a very good product and produces great results.
moose in - moose out
Ive experienced no sides from Havoc and im dosing 20-30-30-40, im on my fourth week might go for a fifth.
Actually ive seemed to be a little irritable but thats it.
that's great - everyone does responds differently
that's true - I just thought I would share my experience
what sides did you experience with Havoc?..just curious
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