Methyl-Vol(Superdrol) advice

marshbomb

marshbomb

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About a week ago I started a cycle of EST Methyl-Vol, which is basically the same 17aa compound thats in Superdrol with a Nitric Oxide mix and a liver cleanser all in one. Anyways, I am 28 years old, 6'5" tall and weighed about 215 when I started. I'm also taking Milk Thistle, Saw Palmetto, Red Yeast Rice, Hawthorne Berries, Flax and Fish Oils, a mulit and extra Vitamin C. The first two weeks im running the drol at 20mg, thinking about going to 30mg for week 3 and possibly going a 4th week at 30mg. I have bought a product called Anabolic Extereme PCT for my PCT therapy. So far after one week I am seeing some awesome strength gains and a feel like a beast in the gym. Gained 15 pounds on my 4 rep BB Incline since last week. I have a few questions for the experts on this board.

Should I run the drol for a 4th week or stop at 3?

Is AX PCT good enough for my Post Cycle Therapy or should I buy something else to run it with?

Should I keep the calories high during PCT? (Currently Im running 4000-5000 a day)

Thanks in advance
 
Oh dear. You really should have a SERM like Nolvadex(tomaxifen citrate). I think you should have done some more reading before you used steroids. A lot of people have got gyno from estrogen rebound after superdrol and the SERM would save you from getting tits. Also restarting natural test production with just an AI is going to be hard/slow process which could end in you loosing your gains.

Sorry for the bad news
 
I agree definetly run some clomid or toremifene afterwards.....if you dont want man boobs and you want your balls back....
 
marshbomb said:
About a week ago I started a cycle of EST Methyl-Vol, which is basically the same 17aa compound thats in Superdrol with a Nitric Oxide mix and a liver cleanser all in one. Anyways, I am 28 years old, 6'5" tall and weighed about 215 when I started. I'm also taking Milk Thistle, Saw Palmetto, Red Yeast Rice, Hawthorne Berries, Flax and Fish Oils, a mulit and extra Vitamin C. The first two weeks im running the drol at 20mg, thinking about going to 30mg for week 3 and possibly going a 4th week at 30mg. I have bought a product called Anabolic Extereme post cycle therapy for my PCT therapy. So far after one week I am seeing some awesome strength gains and a feel like a beast in the gym. Gained 15 pounds on my 4 rep BB Incline since last week. I have a few questions for the experts on this board.

Should I run the drol for a 4th week or stop at 3?

Is AX PCT good enough for my Post Cycle Therapy or should I buy something else to run it with?

Should I keep the calories high during PCT? (Currently Im running 4000-5000 a day)

Thanks in advance
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Wow, tons of things I see here.

Maybe try doing your dosing a little different, have you done a cycle before? 40mg of drol is wayyy too much imo. I would go 20mg for the first two weeks (I guess...) then see how you feel. I wouldn't recommend going up to 30, but if you are going to def. don't go up to 40 that could be very dangerous.

OK --- as for PCT, you def. need more than PCT. If you go with a SERM, I would suggest Toremifine for Superdrol. If not, I would def suggest a healthy dose of ATD....something like Inhibit-E. You might find that you will need to start a natty test booster(trib) while ON-cycle...with that high of a dose of drol you will most likely experience medium/above average shutdown. I REALLY recommend Axis Labs- HyperTEST, it is by far the best test booster on the market for the price (imo) mainly bc it not only has a realllly high concentration of trib (bulgerian trib), but it also has what we call the "HyperFT" matrix which works a lot like ActivatE in that it frees up bound test therefore raising your levels of free test. You will also want to run this on into and through your PCT.

My example PCT would look something like this. Reduce XT, Inhibit-E...maybe SAMe, HyperTEST, Milk Thistle, Hawthorne, CoQ10, and I don't know any history (previous medical conditions) on you or I might recommend more. If you want to be REALLY safe in controlling Estro I would recommend as I already stated...Toremifine.

So anyways bro...I hope this helped....took me forever to type it. Hope you don't die now ;) GL, and let us know if you have any more Q's.
 
Nolva (or clomid, if you can handle being moody as hell) and rebound, forget any trib product, its crap. Activate isnt bad to help ya keep your gains, but you really need something more then an AI or Free-test booster for PCT, pick yourself up a SERM
 
You really shouldnt be running a cycle in the first place, since you are asking about PCT while you are on, do your research before you start your next one, it will go a whole lot better, with less stress.

Of course you keep your cals high during pct! You dont want to loose it all!

Low cals+ Low test during PCT= MUSCLE LOSS
 
bLacKjAck. said:
Wow, tons of things I see here.

Maybe try doing your dosing a little different, have you done a cycle before? 40mg of drol is wayyy too much imo. I would go 20mg for the first two weeks (I guess...) then see how you feel. I wouldn't recommend going up to 30, but if you are going to def. don't go up to 40 that could be very dangerous.

OK --- as for post cycle therapy, you def. need more than PCT. If you go with a SERM, I would suggest Toremifine for Superdrol. If not, I would def suggest a healthy dose of ATD....something like Inhibit-E. You might find that you will need to start a natty test booster(trib) while ON-cycle...with that high of a dose of drol you will most likely experience medium/above average shutdown. I REALLY recommend Axis Labs- HyperTEST, it is by far the best test booster on the market for the price (imo) mainly bc it not only has a realllly high concentration of trib (bulgerian trib), but it also has what we call the "HyperFT" matrix which works a lot like ActivatE in that it frees up bound test therefore raising your levels of free test. You will also want to run this on into and through your PCT.

My example PCT would look something like this. Reduce XT, Inhibit-E...maybe SAMe, HyperTEST, Milk Thistle, Hawthorne, CoQ10, and I don't know any history (previous medical conditions) on you or I might recommend more. If you want to be REALLY safe in controlling Estro I would recommend as I already stated...Toremifine.

So anyways bro...I hope this helped....took me forever to type it. Hope you don't die now ;) GL, and let us know if you have any more Q's.
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You may have misread my original post, I have never intended on going up to 40mg at all, the question was whether to run a 4th week at 30mg? I was looking at possibly 30mg because I have read that at my weight(Currently 222) that 30 mg may be a good dose. As far as the Toremifine, where do I get this? Is this something you need a prescription for or something that can be purchased OTC? Anyways, thanks for the advice and I will DEFINITELY purchase a SERM before cycle ends.
 
bLacKjAck. said:
Have you ever runn 30mg of Sdrol? I can say with 100% confidence he will DEF. need a test booster...and maybe add a SERM in to, but def a naty test booster is a must here.
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Be careful bro, G has been here a lot longer that you and don't forget, I alpha tested and developed SD in the first place. After doing a 10,20,30,40 cycle, I PCT'ed with fenugreek and DHEA alone! I see no issue with AX's P.C.T. working here, but the tor is always a bad idea of course. Yeah, that's something else nobody was doing either until I started talking about it. People were still using Nolva.

Be fair to G man. It's cool for reps to pimp product, that's what they do, be keep the info legit at least.
 
DR.D said:
Be careful bro, G has been here a lot longer that you and don't forget, I alpha tested and developed superdrol in the first place. After doing a 10,20,30,40 cycle, I post cycle therapy'ed with fenugreek and DHEA alone! I see no issue with AX's P.C.T. working here, but the tor is always a bad idea of course. Yeah, that's something else nobody was doing either until I started talking about it. People were still using Nolva.

Be fair to G man. It's cool for reps to pimp product, that's what they do, be keep the info legit at least.
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Let me remind you guys...the advice that I was giving was ONLY my opinion. I am pretty sure that is what we are supposed to do on here. So that is all that was...never meant any disrespect at all --- if it came across that way then let me apologize, bc it was never meant that way. I wish we could all talk like men and discuss things without getting our feelings hurt. So --- no hard feeling here, I respect Grant a ton, great guy with a lot of insightful info --- I just disagreed with ONE post, so I feel liberty to voice that.

Marshbomb --- glad I could be of some help. SERMS are purchased at research labs online, but I am unable to give that info here. Sorry man.
 
bLacKjAck. said:
Let me remind you guys...the advice that I was giving was ONLY my opinion. I am pretty sure that is what we are supposed to do on here. So that is all that was...never meant any disrespect at all --- if it came across that way then let me apologize, bc it was never meant that way. I wish we could all talk like men and discuss things without getting our feelings hurt. So --- no hard feeling here, I respect Grant a ton, great guy with a lot of insightful info --- I just disagreed with ONE post, so I feel liberty to voice that.

Marshbomb --- glad I could be of some help. SERMS are purchased at research labs online, but I am unable to give that info here. Sorry man.
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Me too man, no disrespect intended at all. In fact, you know we're buds bro! So nobody better get ill with you either! ;)

Sorry if I said it bad my friend. G's a good guy too.
 
bLacKjAck. said:
Have you ever runn 30mg of Sdrol? I can say with 100% confidence he will DEF. need a test booster...and maybe add a SERM in to, but def a naty test booster is a must here.
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Yea, I have run 30 mg SD, Im a natty now, but I have done it in the past. I have never seen any conclusive evidence that Trib works well at all especially running it during a cycle to prevent shutdown. In that place I would reccomend something tottally different.

Sorry if I came off as attacking you, I quit smoking yesterday!!

After my moto crash a year or so ago, started smoking, glad to be quitting, I got snot coming out like a lava trail off a volcano.
 
Grant said:
Yea, I have run 30 mg superdrol, Im a natty now, but I have done it in the past. I have never seen any conclusive evidence that Trib works well at all especially running it during a cycle to prevent shutdown. In that place I would reccomend something tottally different.

Sorry if I came off as attacking you, I quit smoking yesterday!!

After my moto crash a year or so ago, started smoking, glad to be quitting, I got snot coming out like a lava trail off a volcano.
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Haha, hey man it's all good everyone has different opinions --- I know for me in the past (potent) tribs+DHEA have always kept me from shutdown while on a cycle.

But ya know everyone responds differently. Glad everyone is cool about everything.

Carry on....
 
DR.D said:
Be careful bro, G has been here a lot longer that you and don't forget, I alpha tested and developed superdrol in the first place. After doing a 10,20,30,40 cycle, I post cycle therapy'ed with fenugreek and DHEA alone! I see no issue with AX's P.C.T. working here, but the tor is always a bad idea of course. Yeah, that's something else nobody was doing either until I started talking about it. People were still using Nolva.

Be fair to G man. It's cool for reps to pimp product, that's what they do, be keep the info legit at least.
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Damn! That Dr D guy can be a ****ing jerk sometimes! That sounds all messed up and I am sorry bLacKjAck. I actually started smoking again in the last few weeks, so I have no excuses like G! You know I got much love for you bro. Reps.
 
DR.D said:
Damn! That Dr D guy can be a ****ing jerk sometimes! That sounds all messed up and I am sorry bLacKjAck. I actually started smoking again in the last few weeks, so I have no excuses like G! You know I got much love for you bro. Reps.
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Hey buddy, I assure you we are good. We still tha same comrades we always was ;)
 
blackjack is starting trouble again!!!

I think I am going to have to let him go........haha

Some interesting points brought up in this thread. Glad to see everyone is cool with everyone now, I thought Dr.D was going to have bring out his belt and do some whippin. ;)
 
DR.D said:
Damn! That Dr D guy can be a ****ing jerk sometimes! That sounds all messed up and I am sorry bLacKjAck. I actually started smoking again in the last few weeks, so I have no excuses like G! You know I got much love for you bro. Reps.
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I heard that the D stood for Dyke in DR.D! Heard he was some kind of woman posing as a man!!!!


(*post edited for typing in a southern accent)
 
Grant said:
I heard that the D stood for Dyke in DR.D! Heard he was some kind of woman posing as a man!!!!


(*post edited for typing in a southern accent)
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HA HA HA!

Dude, I heard he was totally hung, like an ex-porn star turned chemist or something! lol

:woohoo:
 
DR.D said:
HA HA HA!

Dude, I heard he was totally hung, like an ex-porn star turned chemist or something! lol

:woohoo:
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Yea, I heard "his" clit was so big it almost hung to the FLOOR!!!


Haha, sorry D, you know I got nothin but love
 
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