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PowerFULL - post cycle therapy?

getjacked63

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Hello,

I am trying to figure out my post cycle therapy for my upcoming Pheradrol/Mega Zol cycle. Currently it looks like tihs:

Nutraplanet ATD - (50/50/25/25) AI
Retain - Cortisol Blocker
Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support

I also have nolva on hand if I need it.

My question is if I should use powerFULL during pct as well, and what type of benefits it would provide me? Would it be overkill to add in a testosterone booster as well during pct?
 
getjacked63 said:
Hello,

I am trying to figure out my post cycle therapy for my upcoming Pheradrol/Mega Zol cycle. Currently it looks like tihs:

Nutraplanet ATD - (50/50/25/25) AI
Retain - Cortisol Blocker
Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support

I also have nolva on hand if I need it.

My question is if I should use powerFULL during post cycle therapy as well, and what type of benefits it would provide me? Would it be overkill to add in a testosterone booster as well during post cycle therapy?
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PowerFULL is known as a great PCT aid.
 
I even believe someone created a thread expounding exactly what PFull does in a P.C.T. context..Hmm?

What wonderful things searching would yield

:)
 
I feel like i say this one a daily basis...

YOU NEED A SERM IN PCT.

Just having it on hand isn't enough bud. But hey, it's you sex life and your boobs.




Onto your actual question. I've used PF in my PCT's along with a SERM and it works great. Definately something I would highly recomend.
 
PumpingIron said:
I feel like i say this one a daily basis...

YOU NEED A SERM IN post cycle therapy.

Just having it on hand isn't enough bud. But hey, it's you sex life and your boobs.


naw this dude had a thread started yesterday and said that he was going to use a serm....although now it's stated "if i need it" so i'm not sure he fully understands how important a serm is...........but man boobs like great on any one but me....maybe we can request a new forum be opened up!! A forum for discount bras so that some can get and offer great deals on cheast supports......:dance:
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okay okay haha i will take the nolva. not a problem at all. i have bulk powerFULL, can it be put into my chocolate protein shakes twice a day?
 
USP and Mullet jump in here if i'm wrong, but isn't powerfull supposed to be taken on an empty stomach?

:yawn:
 
PumpingIron said:
USP and Mullet jump in here if i'm wrong, but isn't powerfull supposed to be taken on an empty stomach?

:yawn:
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Yeah, insulin blunts HGH response in the body which is why that suggestion is made. However, PFull has effects beyond that of increasing endogenous HGH, so it is not completely necessary to dose like that. To get the best of both worlds so to speak, I focus much of my dose around my WO on WO days, and take my day's worth right before bed on non-WO days.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Yeah, insulin blunts HGH response in the body which is why that suggestion is made. However, PFull has effects beyond that of increasing endogenous HGH, so it is not completely necessary to dose like that. To get the best of both worlds so to speak, I focus much of my dose around my WO on WO days, and take my day's worth right before bed on non-WO days.
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are you saying you ONLY take powerfull on non-workout days right before bed?
 
getjacked63 said:
are you saying you ONLY take powerfull on non-workout days right before bed?
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No. I said on non-WO days I take my entire dose right before bed, and on WO days, I center my dose areound my WO.

I do this to get the full benefit of PFull. The HGH response is inhibited when one takes PFull on anything but an empty stomach. But, there are lots of other beneficial effects of PFull beyond that of the HGH release. So, to get the best of both I split my doses like that.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
No. I said on non-WO days I take my entire dose right before bed, and on WO days, I center my dose areound my WO.

I do this to get the full benefit of PFull. The HGH response is inhibited when one takes PFull on anything but an empty stomach. But, there are lots of other beneficial effects of PFull beyond that of the HGH release. So, to get the best of both I split my doses like that.
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ah now i understand. thanks for the clearup. well i think i got my pct ready now to go now...let the fun begin in about a week :)
 
The best dosing protocol is:

1 hour after morning meal
20 minutes pre workout
before bed

off day
1 hour after morning meal
1 hour after a meal of choice(optional)
before bed

If you take 1 hour after a meal, you have an hour and half of a HGH response among the other effects. The HGH response is significant and LASTING(120 minutes)
 
USPLabs said:
The best dosing protocol is:

1 hour after morning meal
20 minutes pre workout
before bed

off day
1 hour after morning meal
1 hour after a meal of choice(optional)
before bed

If you take 1 hour after a meal, you have an hour and half of a HGH response among the other effects. The HGH response is significant and LASTING(120 minutes)
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Thanks USP, I will throw this regimen into my PCT for sure. Also, just to make it known, I am talking about the OLD powerFULL, does this make any difference? Should I be taking more caps per day to equal the effects of the NEW powerFULL?

Thanks again!
 
getjacked63 said:
Thanks USP, I will throw this regimen into my post cycle therapy for sure. Also, just to make it known, I am talking about the OLD powerFULL, does this make any difference? Should I be taking more caps per day to equal the effects of the NEW powerFULL?

Thanks again!
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Yes, take more than with the new formula. I would dose 2 AM, 4 pre workout and 2 before bed. On non workout days I would switch up the 4 cap dose to before bed.
 
getjacked63 said:
Hello,

I am trying to figure out my post cycle therapy for my upcoming Pheradrol/Mega Zol cycle. Currently it looks like tihs:

Nutraplanet ATD - (50/50/25/25) AI
Retain - Cortisol Blocker
Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support

I also have nolva on hand if I need it.

My question is if I should use powerFULL during post cycle therapy as well, and what type of benefits it would provide me? Would it be overkill to add in a testosterone booster as well during post cycle therapy?
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PowerFull boosts GH levels significantly, boosts mood and increases testosterone levels, that is the perfect post cycle therapy cocktail :). If your using the new version i'd dose at 6 caps and taper down to 3.
 
CHAPS said:
PowerFull boosts GH levels significantly, boosts mood and increases testosterone levels, that is the perfect post cycle therapy cocktail :). If your using the new version i'd dose at 6 caps and taper down to 3.
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unless of course its T increasing abilities are akin to HCG (ie, LH mimetic) in which case it's no good past week 1 otherwise you'll actually be keeping yourself suppressed. virtually any T increase that doesnt come from your own HPTA is suppressive.

i consider it dangerous to advocate use of a hormonal product during PCT that we dont even know the mode of action of.

i'd use it the last 2 weeks of the cycle, and then the first week of a 4-week PCT, to be safe.
 
same_old said:
unless of course its T increasing abilities are akin to HCG (ie, LH mimetic) in which case it's no good past week 1 otherwise you'll actually be keeping yourself suppressed. virtually any T increase that doesnt come from your own HPTA is suppressive.

i consider it dangerous to advocate use of a hormonal product during post cycle therapy that we dont even know the mode of action of.

i'd use it the last 2 weeks of the cycle, and then the first week of a 4-week PCT, to be safe.
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So your saying even thing like Tribulus are suppressive? How about things that have been shown to upregulate the hpta such as formestane? And i believe PowerFull works by stimulating LH.
 
CHAPS said:
So your saying even thing like Tribulus are suppressive? How about things that have been shown to upregulate the hpta such as formestane? And i believe PowerFull works by stimulating LH.
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Correct by increasing LH.
 
USPLabs said:
Correct by increasing LH.
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USP - maybe i missed this...do you have proof of that? i am NOT busting your balls (again), i just wonder if you've seen something i havent.

saying that a drug/herb actually increases the HPTA's output of LH without some kind of negative feedback impetus (ie. dropping estrogen) would be significant, because that would actually be BETTER than HCG, as the HPTA atrophies/shuts down when an LH mimetic like HCG is administered.
 
CHAPS said:
So your saying even thing like Tribulus are suppressive? How about things that have been shown to upregulate the hpta such as formestane? And i believe PowerFull works by stimulating LH.
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i'd expect formestane to upregulate HPTA, due to the AI action.

i dont think anyone knows how tribulus actually works. as of last year it hadnt been proven clinically.
 
same_old said:
USP - maybe i missed this...do you have proof of that? i am NOT busting your balls (again), i just wonder if you've seen something i havent.

saying that a drug/herb actually increases the HPTA's output of LH without some kind of negative feedback impetus (ie. dropping estrogen) would be significant, because that would actually be BETTER than HCG, as the HPTA atrophies/shuts down when an LH mimetic like HCG is administered.
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USPLabs said:
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that study does NOT support your position.

"Four hours after a single administration, serum LH levels were significantly increased by L-DOPA at 1000 mg/kg, but not at 20, 100 or 200 mg/kg."

so if a 220lb bodybuilder used 100 GRAMS of L-dopa, LH would spike. anything less and nothing would happen with respect to LH. Powerfull has probably no more than 500mg l-dopa in a dose (although none of us actually know)

overwhelming conclusion: the l-dopa content in PowerFull will not cause any LH increase.

will some other chemical in mucuna pruriens do it? possibly, i dont know. but the prudent approach is still absolutely correct - assume powerfull is suppressive until ANY evidence is given to the contrary.

MullettSoldier - you got anything to contribute, brother?
 
same_old said:
that study does NOT support your position.

"Four hours after a single administration, serum LH levels were significantly increased by L-DOPA at 1000 mg/kg, but not at 20, 100 or 200 mg/kg."

so if a 220lb bodybuilder used 100 GRAMS of L-dopa, LH would spike. anything less and nothing would happen with respect to LH. Powerfull has probably no more than 500mg l-dopa in a dose (although none of us actually know)

overwhelming conclusion: the l-dopa content in PowerFull will not cause any LH increase.

will some other chemical in mucuna pruriens do it? possibly, i dont know. but the prudent approach is still absolutely correct - assume powerfull is suppressive until ANY evidence is given to the contrary.

MullettSoldier - you got anything to contribute, brother?
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Oops, sorry I missed this one bro. I'm swamped with papers, assignments, regular finals BS, but I'll work on it. Our discussions are wicked.
 
same_old said:
that study does NOT support your position.

"Four hours after a single administration, serum LH levels were significantly increased by L-DOPA at 1000 mg/kg, but not at 20, 100 or 200 mg/kg."

so if a 220lb bodybuilder used 100 GRAMS of L-dopa, LH would spike. anything less and nothing would happen with respect to LH. Powerfull has probably no more than 500mg l-dopa in a dose (although none of us actually know)

overwhelming conclusion: the l-dopa content in PowerFull will not cause any LH increase.

will some other chemical in mucuna pruriens do it? possibly, i dont know. but the prudent approach is still absolutely correct - assume powerfull is suppressive until ANY evidence is given to the contrary.

MullettSoldier - you got anything to contribute, brother?
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Oops, sorry I missed this one bro. I'm swamped with papers, assignments, regular finals BS, but I'll work on it. Our discussions are wicked.
 
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