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It looks like T-mag (yeah yeah hypemachine) came out with a time-release beta-alanine product... any thoughts? Looks interesting, but t-mag can make a piece of poop look like steroids so I never know anymore.
I just take it twice per day..once in the AM and once post WO or before bed. Mixed with a little Histidine it gives a really nice boost in circulation in the muscles..I get tingly like I'm getting a massage.
Clout definatley is one of the best. I think the only reason it isn't more popular is because it taste like poo!If you want a BA product, you simply can't beat the all-in-one package of creatine, BA, and other goodies in MAN Clout.
The taste has been improved. Not great now, but not something I have trouble drinking at all. I think the price stops people sometime, although if you look at what you're getting, the price great.Clout definatley is one of the best. I think the only reason it isn't more popular is because it taste like poo!
Beta Alanine is legit. The stuff freaking works.
The product you're speaking of has never been studied. In theory it would lead to greater increase in muscle carnosine, but I'm not sure that the price justifies the possible result. Interesting how some companies will promote a product has greater absorption, but recommend taking the same (or higher) dose that research proves is effective...
Here's a very recent stud by Hoffman, et al.
The increase in Lean muscle in the BA+C group compared to the just C was surprising and very promising for BA. The other thing that got me was the decrease in percent body fat with the BA +C group compared to the just creatine group, that didn't lose any body fat.
The two main points I get from the results on body fat are: One it could shows synergy between BA/C on fat metabolism or Two, the BA itself was causing the change in body fat lose by itself. Since the studies so far show NO SYNERGY between BA and C, I’m going to go with number 2
Shame they didn't have a just Beta-Alanine group to compare against the creatine group.
IJSNEM, 16(4), August 2006, Copyright © 2006
Effect of Creatine and ß-Alanine Supplementation on Performance and Endocrine Responses in Strength/Power Athletes
Jay Hoffman; Nicholas A. Ratamess; Jie Kang; Gerald Mangine; Avery Faigenbaum; Jeffrey Stout Table of Contents for Vol. 16, Iss. 4
Abstract
The effects of creatine and creatine plus ß-alanine on strength, power, body composition, and endocrine changes were examined during a 10-wk resistance training program in collegiate football players. Thirty-three male subjects were randomly assigned to either a placebo (P), creatine (C), or creatine plus ß-alanine (CA) group. During each testing session subjects were assessed for strength (maximum bench press and squat), power (Wingate anaerobic power test, 20-jump test), and body composition. Resting blood samples were analyzed for total testosterone, cortisol, growth hormone, IGF-1, and sex hormone binding globulin. Changes in lean body mass and percent body fat were greater (P < 0.05) in CA compared to C or P. Significantly greater strength improvements were seen in CA and C compared to P. Resting testosterone concentrations were elevated in C, however, no other significant endocrine changes were noted. Results of this study demonstrate the efficacy of creatine and creatine plus ß-alanine on strength performance. Creatine plus ß-alanine supplementation appeared to have the greatest effect on lean tissue accruement and body fat composition.
Thank you!Very nice post.
AIM: To investigate, by means of two independently run, double blind studies, the effect of supplementing (6.4 g/d) ß-Ala for 28d and 14d [the last co-supplemented with carbohydrate (CHO)],upon isometric endurance of the knee extensors at 45-50%MVC. 45-50%MVC coincides with thepeak in intramuscular lactate accumulation and pH decrease. METHODS: Study a): [principal investigator JP] comprised 14 male subjects aged 22.9± (superdrol) 5.9 yrs and mass 80.2±10.5kg, randomly assigned to receive either [800 mg] x 8/d x 28d of ß-Ala (Carnosyn™, NAI, San Marcos, Ca) (n=8) or a matching placebo capsules containing maltodextrin (n=6). Study b): [principal investigator RCH] comprised 20 male subjects aged 25.3±7.5yrs and mass 78.0±10.2kg assigned to receive either [1600mg] x 4/d x 14d of ß-Ala (n=8) or a matching placebo (n=12).
Yes, I'm looking at a hard copy right now and it's (superdrol) as in standard deviation, as in common statistical measurement.Does anybody know why superdrol is in parenthsis iin the first study that was posted???
MOD EDIT: superdrol is rewritten to superdrol on the forum. Its really just superdrol
Lets keep this subject on Beta Alanine. Im very Interested in it, as Im about to start trying it.
The pic on my avator is wwhen I was on a superdrol cycle. Its been almost a year and proud to say Im anabolic free, Loving it, and Loving the challange of challanging my body withoiut the use of anabolics. Check out my recent video of me posing on 3-11-07 in my thread my quest for a sixpack.
Im ready to put on some size with Beta-Alanine and in another four months Ill post another Video of me anabolic free. Well see how The beta Alanine works.
I have just started taking beta-alanine purchased from Nutra. I took 4 pills which equals 6.4grams pre-workout. Had a good pump going, better recovery between sets, and today I am hardly sore after my chest workout. I also do get the tingly itchy feeling after ingesting the BA about 15-20mins later.
I just take it twice per day..once in the AM and once post WO or before bed. Mixed with a little Histidine it gives a really nice boost in circulation in the muscles..I get tingly like I'm getting a massage.
It's nowhere near as dramatic as that article suggests. A mild boost in strength is all I have really notice with perhaps, an enhanced ability to retain muscle during periods of stress. I do feel that I recouperate a little better with BA, but I am not 400% stronger and bigger than before supplementing with it, lol.
3-6 grams every day. 6 grams the first 4 weeks,loading, then 3 after.Anyone know optimal dosing schedule for beta alanine?
Also, Ive read you can't take it with taurine, why? and is there anything else to avoid?
how long have you been taking Ba?It's nowhere near as dramatic as that article suggests. A mild boost in strength is all I have really notice with perhaps, an enhanced ability to retain muscle during periods of stress. I do feel that I recouperate a little better with BA, but I am not 400% stronger and bigger than before supplementing with it, lol.
One of the best articles Ive read by J-Rod
Bodybuilding.com - Joey Rodrigues - Beta-Alanine & Histidine: The Muscle Burning Fire Fighters!
word!If you want a BA product, you simply can't beat the all-in-one package of creatine, BA, and other goodies in MAN Clout.
You have to take into account what a freaking huuuuge monster you were to begin with. Your baseline is so out of whack that nothing is going to budge you much.It's nowhere near as dramatic as that article suggests. A mild boost in strength is all I have really notice with perhaps, an enhanced ability to retain muscle during periods of stress. I do feel that I recouperate a little better with BA, but I am not 400% stronger and bigger than before supplementing with it, lol.
Taking too large a dose of BA can cause a tingling sensation that can be somewhat annoying. I would break up the dosages throughout the day.Anyone know optimal dosing schedule for beta alanine?
Also, Ive read you can't take it with taurine, why? and is there anything else to avoid?
Yes, Beta-Alanine was recently shown to increase aerobic endurance, so I would highly doubt it would be the Beta-alanine tiring you out.Could Beta Alanine hinder cardio perforance?
Ever since I started a few days ago I took BA fifteen -a half hour before cardio and I got wore out easier.
My analyses; The Causes... Beta Alanine , Caffiene, ever since I started Caffiene a few days ago both cardio sessions wore me out bigtime..I take Caff about an hour to hour and a half before with my morning meal. It could also be something else like stress..but I really havnt had much stress lately..and Im thinking its either Ba or Caff. Ba supposed to aid in endurance.
Other possible causes-Ive started a few days ago along with the Ba- Applied Nutriceutticals IGF-2 and Applied Nutriceuticals -AM, thats where the 125 mg of caffeine is coming from, and PM.
Anyone know optimal dosing schedule for beta alanine?
Also, Ive read you can't take it with taurine, why? and is there anything else to avoid?
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